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Grizzly 45 · 26-04-2012, 22:05

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Originally Posted by pioboyle

does the buckshot not make s**t of the ordinary shotgun barrel?

Nope!!All they are are 9 or 12 round lead pellets.
Likewise shotgun slugs,no special barrel needed.

deerhunter1 · 26-04-2012, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Grizzly 45

Nope!!All they are are 9 or 12 round lead pellets.
Likewise shotgun slugs,no special barrel needed.

I thought you had to have an un-choked barrel for slugs, ie like a skeet barrel with no choke restrictions.?

Grizzly 45 · 27-04-2012, 12:38

It's a myth that you need cylinder bore for slugs.I've shot slugs out of full choke barrels no problem.Thats Full,not extra full or turkey chokes so I cant comment on those.

The only reason you get cylinder bore short[by our standards] "slug" or "deer" barrels is that there is simply no point in a choke when you use slugs. Advantage is they give you a quicker handling shotgun in brush and some more or less usable rifle sights.
There are some rifled slug shotgun barrels out there,which supposedly improve the accruacy of the slug,never used one.But IMHO it is proably more gimmick than usable,as the slug has to engage with the grooves of the barrel.How that works with a shotgun wad trailing or cupping the slug is abit beyond me.

Longfellow · 27-04-2012, 18:51

Wild goats or feral goats as they should called are vermin. They ain't native critters so should be treated like other non-native critters (grey squirrel, muntjac etc) and should be killed on sight, whether they have kids or not.

Glensman · 27-04-2012, 21:13

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Originally Posted by Longfellow

Wild goats or feral goats as they should called are vermin. They ain't native critters so should be treated like other non-native critters (grey squirrel, muntjac etc) and should be killed on sight, whether they have kids or not.

Wow, calm down there

Grey squirrels are a danger to a native population.
Goats are Feral, but they are not on a par with vermin. They also offer good sport to hunters and are a boon to the local tourist industry.

Longfellow · 27-04-2012, 23:12

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Originally Posted by Glensman

Wow, calm down there

Grey squirrels are a danger to a native population.
Goats are Feral, but they are not on a par with vermin. They also offer good sport to hunters and are a boon to the local tourist industry.

Goats are a danger to native wildlife. They ate native trees, you wouldn't be too happy with them yokes if trees you planted were destroyed. There was a sizable amount of them around my area, but thankfully we have eradicated them from the area.

As regards a boom to the tourist industry, who wants to see some feral goats?. The only good feral goat in this country is a dead one.

demonloop · 27-04-2012, 23:25

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Originally Posted by Longfellow

Goats are a danger to native wildlife. They ate native trees, you wouldn't be too happy with them yokes if trees you planted were destroyed. There was a sizable amount of them around my area, but thankfully we have eradicated them from the area.

As regards a boom to the tourist industry, who wants to see some feral goats?. The only good feral goat in this country is a dead one.

I like them goat yokes.

Grizzly 45 · 28-04-2012, 00:02

If you got some foreign hunters to go stalking for a good size head,and they were putting some cash in your back pocket and the local economy.
Would you think differently about them??

I know where you are coming from about them demolishing a tree plantation,and seeing alot of time and work going to fk!! But I 'd be looking at getting them to pay for themselves and their eating habits.

Double Barrel · 30-04-2012, 19:17

Puck goats are tough Billy's.

For your listening pleasure.

An Poc Ar Buile

transit260 · 01-05-2012, 10:05

any one on here want to tell my farmer friend theyre not a pest,go right ahead,lol.

pioboyle · 01-05-2012, 10:21

what part of the country is that? shoot a few and they will move on quickly enough... prob is they breed very quickly

German pointer · 01-05-2012, 10:54

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Originally Posted by transit260

any one on here want to tell my farmer friend theyre not a pest,go right ahead,lol.

Don't shooot pictues. Shoot a few of the kids the meat is lovely. One of my deer permissions had 40 of the feckers on his farm last week, They are still there moving between common land and his and I will hopefully get over to him soon to sort some of them out.

pioboyle · 01-05-2012, 11:13

I have the exact same story here, feckers dont leave a fence after them.. gone at the mo from me but prob back in numbers when they do, and are almost impossible to take down..

transit260 · 01-05-2012, 11:22

pioboyle thats the west end of munster,Ive shot close to 100 in the last 3 years and theyre back once a week.They usually dissapear for the summer and in October they show up again to wreak havoc.

pioboyle · 01-05-2012, 12:21

yea well goats i know have moved on 2 miles so not my prob any more, ah but they will be back!

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27-04-2012, 12:38	#63
Grizzly 45 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,107 Adverts \| Friends	It's a myth that you need cylinder bore for slugs.I've shot slugs out of full choke barrels no problem.Thats Full,not extra full or turkey chokes so I cant comment on those. The only reason you get cylinder bore short[by our standards] "slug" or "deer" barrels is that there is simply no point in a choke when you use slugs. Advantage is they give you a quicker handling shotgun in brush and some more or less usable rifle sights. There are some rifled slug shotgun barrels out there,which supposedly improve the accruacy of the slug,never used one.But IMHO it is proably more gimmick than usable,as the slug has to engage with the grooves of the barrel.How that works with a shotgun wad trailing or cupping the slug is abit beyond me.

27-04-2012, 18:51	#64
Longfellow Closed Account Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 89 Adverts \| Friends	Wild goats or feral goats as they should called are vermin. They ain't native critters so should be treated like other non-native critters (grey squirrel, muntjac etc) and should be killed on sight, whether they have kids or not.

28-04-2012, 00:02	#68
Grizzly 45 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 6,107 Adverts \| Friends	If you got some foreign hunters to go stalking for a good size head,and they were putting some cash in your back pocket and the local economy. Would you think differently about them?? I know where you are coming from about them demolishing a tree plantation,and seeing alot of time and work going to fk!! But I 'd be looking at getting them to pay for themselves and their eating habits.

30-04-2012, 19:17	#69
Double Barrel Registered User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: T�r na n�g Posts: 1,209 Adverts \| Friends	Puck goats are tough Billy's. For your listening pleasure. An Poc Ar Buile

01-05-2012, 10:05	#70
transit260 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 179 Adverts \| Friends	any one on here want to tell my farmer friend theyre not a pest,go right ahead,lol.

01-05-2012, 10:21	#71
pioboyle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 53 Adverts \| Friends	what part of the country is that? shoot a few and they will move on quickly enough... prob is they breed very quickly

01-05-2012, 11:13	#73
pioboyle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 53 Adverts \| Friends	I have the exact same story here, feckers dont leave a fence after them.. gone at the mo from me but prob back in numbers when they do, and are almost impossible to take down..

01-05-2012, 11:22	#74
transit260 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 179 Adverts \| Friends	pioboyle thats the west end of munster,Ive shot close to 100 in the last 3 years and theyre back once a week.They usually dissapear for the summer and in October they show up again to wreak havoc.

01-05-2012, 12:21	#75
pioboyle Registered User Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 53 Adverts \| Friends	yea well goats i know have moved on 2 miles so not my prob any more, ah but they will be back!