[StudentDad]

Originally Posted by colm_mcm

So do you reckon the distributors make more margin on a basic model than a high spec model?

They sell what people will buy. simple as that.

Th.e VRT would have to be paid either way, so if the Irish distributors are ripping people off, then go to the UK and get your high spec yoke.

Are you actually in the market for a new car?

I am, but I'm waiting to see what the govt. does in the next budget.

SD

[Del2005]

2nd hand car prices on main land Europe are way higher than ours, yet only a few have high VRT like charges.

Another problem is that Irish people are more interested in the plate than the car, just look at the D threads, so they want a cheap new car every few years than buy a decent motor to keep.

Ask the average Paddy what they drive and the answer will usually be a Turbo Diesel, cause the Motor Tax is low. The fact that the car is totally unsuitable for their needs can't be beaten into their heads.

The dealers,and the cars they sell, are a result of the buyers not the just taxes

[Del2005]

Originally Posted by StudentDad

I am, but I'm waiting to see what the govt. does in the next budget.

SD

I'd buy now. There is no way in hell any taxes are coming down and the farcical CO2 rates are heading way up.

[captainspeed]

Originally Posted by colm_mcm

So do you reckon the distributors make more margin on a basic model than a high spec model?

They sell what people will buy. simple as that.

The VRT would have to be paid either way, so if the Irish distributors are ripping people off, then go to the UK and get your high spec yoke.

Are you actually in the market for a new car?

Exactly, you only have to look at BMW as a case in point to see the difference in priorities.

Irish and UK spec cars have been identical since 2004, so the OP can't play the 'Irish spec cars are worse' card here. If anything ours have a better spec because ours have kph clocks.

In the UK the 320d is the best selling model, over 50% of 3 series sold there are 320ds. In backward old Ireland they expect 75% of 3 series buyers to go for the poverty spec 316ds with that ultra powerful 114 bhp engine.

We get $h!t spec cars with rubbish low powered engines because that's all we buy!

[Carawaystick]

I think if people wanted to fight vet they'd have to challenge the market revenue use for setting their omsp; revenue basically use only britain and Ireland, we are in a common market, i'd look at prices in Romania and Estonia.

Of the last two cars I bought, one I priced in england, and after adding vrt/vat it was EUR50 cheaper here ( an anomoly, the latest model is almost 10k dearer than the model I bought. in 2008)

The other car I priced in Austria ( I found a link) it would have been 430 euros cheaper to buy it there, but the scrap page deal here by dealers over and above the vet reduction and the cost of getting to and from Austria meant we bought here.

I'd have an issue with the vet rate on new cars, it doesn't seem to be reduced for scrap page schemes or even driving a hard bargain with a dealer, but set for a model by the distributer and revenue.

Also the whole VAT thing is another area to attack. If I buy a car in Newry and pay vat in Down, I'm supposed to pay vat again along with vrt here...

[colm_mcm]

Originally Posted by Carawaystick

I think if people wanted to fight vet they'd have to challenge the market revenue use for setting their omsp; revenue basically use only britain and Ireland,

they don't use UK prices to determine OMSP, just Irish.

[Del2005]

Originally Posted by Carawaystick

I think if people wanted to fight vet they'd have to challenge the market revenue use for setting their omsp; revenue basically use only britain and Ireland, we are in a common market, i'd look at prices in Romania and Estonia.

Of the last two cars I bought, one I priced in england, and after adding vrt/vat it was EUR50 cheaper here ( an anomoly, the latest model is almost 10k dearer than the model I bought. in 2008)

The other car I priced in Austria ( I found a link) it would have been 430 euros cheaper to buy it there, but the scrap page deal here by dealers over and above the vet reduction and the cost of getting to and from Austria meant we bought here.

I'd have an issue with the vet rate on new cars, it doesn't seem to be reduced for scrap page schemes or even driving a hard bargain with a dealer, but set for a model by the distributer and revenue.

Also the whole VAT thing is another area to attack. If I buy a car in Newry and pay vat in Down, I'm supposed to pay vat again along with vrt here...

You only pay VAT once in the EU, there's a form you fill in and give to the dealer to buy VAT free or you can reclaim it from the country of purchase.

The scrapeage scheme here was an expensive farce as we don't have a motor industry to protect, even the UK and US schemes mainly benefited South East Asia, and the garages are struggling even more now.

[StudentDad]

Originally Posted by Del2005

You only pay VAT once in the EU, there's a form you fill in and give to the dealer to buy VAT free or you can reclaim it from the country of purchase.

The scrapeage scheme here was an expensive farce as we don't have a motor industry to protect, even the UK and US schemes mainly benefited South East Asia, and the garages are struggling even more now.

Well the way car sales are going we'll be able to pick up a nice shiny new car with every 10 tokens from boxes of Kelloggs Cornflakes

SD

[colm_mcm]

You'll probably still be giving out that the cornflakes from the uk are better

[StudentDad]

Originally Posted by colm_mcm

You'll probably still be giving out that the cornflakes from the uk are better

Unfortunately they probably will be

Matchbox? Better suspension on the Matchbox models =P

SD

[MuppetCheck]

Originally Posted by pcardin

I love your sentence. So afterall it isn't so fairly common here?

Yes they are but not as common as a zetec or style. Not too hard to find.

Originally Posted by corktina

i don't think thats true. A few years ago I bought a Focus Ghioa nd all it had exrtra on it were a couple of bits of chrome. I replaced it with a Mondeo and they couldn't even supply a Ghia. Not only that they had no idea what an "X pack" was.

Historically Ford specs here are very poor compared with the UK. Probably the same with other manufacturers. (Ironically though a Mk2 Cortina 1600E was a better spec here than in the UK.)Ironic because it wasn't built in Cork at all...imported from Dagenham))

I think in recent years things have come in line significantly.

Originally Posted by Chriscl1

What you talkin bout willis!?!?!

Read it again with the above and see if that works.