[Torakx]

Firstly, you would put yourself in your enemies mind and work out your own Vulnerable Points (VP). You would then - armed with this information - develop a sophisticated security department, whose sole job would be to analyse and expose any agents who work against your interests, just like the Brits have. It would be manned by dedicated and trustworthy individuals and rotated and at unpredictable intervals to disrupt any long-term infiltration. Republicans would know that the one unit in its army that could cause the most harm if compromised would be the Security/ Intelligence Department. What did the IRA do under Adams/McGuinness leadership? It established a unit manned by one ex-British marine ( J J Magee) and promoted Freddie Scappaticci to his deputy.
Now either Adams and McGuinness are the two unluckiest people on this planet or it was no accident.

http://cryptome.org/ingram-spies.htm

Thanks that is an interestign read.
Havent gotten to the second link yet.

[fasttalkerchat]

Who benefited from the Omagh bomb?

[Fenian Army]

The peace process.

It killed off nearly all remaining support for physical force republicanism.

The crown forces new about the bomb - they tracked it and MI5 apparantly "didnt share" their info with the RUC. Also, strangely enough, the police deviated from normal practice with bomb scares in Omagh, bomb scares weren't rare remember. People were normally sent the opposite direction, to a bus depot I believe. This time they werent and were ushered towards the bomb.
Personally I believe it was a result of epic mess ups by all the parties, Brits, spooks and RIRA, but there is enough meat on the bones for conspiracy heads to come to a different conclusion.

[Fenian Army]

Of course there were Brit agents in the IRA, but they weren't controlled by them, take when they tried (and very nearly succeeded!) to kill prime ministers - mortar bombed the war cabinet etc.

It is suggested that spooks were involved with the OIRA and brought about the split - out of a fear of the IRA establishing a Celtic Cuba of sorts.

[fasttalkerchat]

Originally Posted by Fenian Army

The peace process.

It killed off nearly all remaining support for physical force republicanism.

The crown forces new about the bomb - they tracked it and MI5 apparantly "didnt share" their info with the RUC. Also, strangely enough, the police deviated from normal practice with bomb scares in Omagh, bomb scares weren't rare remember. People were normally sent the opposite direction, to a bus depot I believe. This time they werent and were ushered towards the bomb.
Personally I believe it was a result of epic mess ups by all the parties, Brits, spooks and RIRA, but there is enough meat on the bones for conspiracy heads to come to a different conclusion.

I always believed that there was a mix up and that the RIRA thought the warning had been given. Then I started to think the Brits let it go off.

But when you go into it, this was out of character to how the RIRA had previously operated.
The other big out of character bomb was the Enniskillen memorial bomb. It was carried out by "an IRA unit from outside the area". The republican movement wasn't just riddled with touts; entire operations were carried out by the Brits.

[Fenian Army]

Originally Posted by fasttalkerchat

I always believed that there was a mix up and that the RIRA thought the warning had been given. Then I started to think the Brits let it go off.

But when you go into it, this was out of character to how the RIRA had previously operated.
The other big out of character bomb was the Enniskillen memorial bomb. It was carried out by "an IRA unit from outside the area". The republican movement wasn't just riddled with touts; entire operations were carried out by the Brits.

Yes I agree, sure if Freddie Scappaticci really was steaknife then the Brits managed and oversaw the executions of many touts - their own informants.

So there is one example. If they were prepared to stand over that then I'm sure they would have allowed bombings to go ahead. (or organised them)

[fasttalkerchat]

Originally Posted by Fenian Army

Yes I agree, sure if Freddie Scappaticci really was steaknife then the Brits managed and oversaw the executions of many touts - their own informants.

So there is one example. If they were prepared to stand over that then I'm sure they would have allowed bombings to go ahead. (or organised them)

Freddie Scappaticci was more than likely steaknife. From one story I know there was a British agent doing a life term in prison!

[Fenian Army]

Originally Posted by fasttalkerchat

Freddie Scappaticci was more than likely steaknife. From one story I know there was a British agent doing a life term in prison!

I don't think I'll ever fully believe it until he is killed.

[sinsin]

Originally Posted by Fenian Army

I don't think I'll ever fully believe it until he is killed.

David Rupert He is one angle.

But he is a mentally ill,pathological liar who eats live rabbits,
according to the powers that be.

That usually means somebody is telling the truth.
He was an FBI agent at the heart of the RIRA who told the Brits what was happening,I think he was with the bombmaker two weeks before and passed that info on.

http://sluggerotoole.com/ has the story and more.
You will learn nothing from RTE/BBC etc.Bookmark Slugger.