[Naikon]

Originally Posted by Jim2007

I was responding to your statement:

"It's a bulls4it term used to perpetuate the idea that external service providers should have complete and unlimited control over your data and computing resources. Essentially, you sign away the control over your own computer along with your right to privacy for convenience."

Which has nothing to do with the RFCs that your are referring to.... furthermore, there are a lot of steps in between an RFC and the technology begin coming widely available.

Jim.

Seriously though, it's an ambiguous term. I did not refer to any individual RFC btw.

[Boskonay]

Why must cloud be synonymous with loss of control over your server or data?

You're looking at the wrong cloud if that's the case!

[rolion]

@Boskonay

Sorry if that goes personal...i would preffer to answer me in a private way,possible around a cup of coffee...

I look at this cloud wave as it used to be back in pre-2000 !Lots of money invested in to a very young technology,with big huge numbers listed as return on investments and nice predictions...

As you are one (or only one) that favours the cloud technology,can you give me few reasons why the pre-2000 won't apply to cloud !?

On other side,just reading some news alerts...on silliconrepublic,two companies just received grants for technology to be used in the cloud...based on what ??? on virtual returns ? on virtual forecasts ??

sorry,i am lost...

[Boskonay]

The wave you refer to was ASP which could be equated to SAAS now.

There are lots of fundamental differences, but my experience and expertise is in the IAAS part of cloud (Infra as a service).

In my opinion, this represents a shift from 'legacy' style hosted infrastructure, so 'cloud' style and the benefits that brings. (Which are 'real' and measurable).

The problem is that there is hype and a 'mini bubble' around the SAAS opart of cloud, which is confusing the market entirely.

In simple, nuts and bolts terms, cloud servers and cloud datacentres will replace onsite kit and colo/dedicated servers almost entirely over the next three to five years. In fact, no one has to do anything to even embrace it, as all the infra providers will simply be doing it by default over that period.

[BaconZombie]

[PerrinV2]

So I know absolutely nothing about cloud computing

Can anyone recommend a decent website where I can read up on it?

[Ctrl Alt Del]

Originally Posted by PerrinV2

So I know absolutely nothing about cloud computing

Can anyone recommend a decent website where I can read up on it?

Begin by doing a search in your search engine and read posts,web sites,blogs and white papers.Check Youtube,there you can find lots of good educational resources.
As we stand,there are people loving the cloud computing while there,on the other side ,are people that hate it. I'll say that majority just sits and wait to see what really going to be...

Make up your own opinion,read the pro and the against and come up with your best educated opinion.

PS
Now,when i say cloud i mean servers and storage and virtual applications,no email in the cloud !!

Have fun...

[PerrinV2]

Originally Posted by Ctrl Alt Del

Begin by doing a search in your search engine and read posts,web sites,blogs and white papers.Check Youtube,there you can find lots of good educational resources.
As we stand,there are people loving the cloud computing while there,on the other side ,are people that hate it. I'll say that majority just sits and wait to see what really going to be...

Make up your own opinion,read the pro and the against and come up with your best educated opinion.

PS
Now,when i say cloud i mean servers and storage and virtual applications,no email in the cloud !!

Have fun...

Thats what I had being doing,reading articles on the web just was wondering had anyone a particular one to recommend

[Ctrl Alt Del]

Originally Posted by PerrinV2

Thats what I had being doing,reading articles on the web just was wondering had anyone a particular one to recommend

A particular one "good" or "bad" to recommend !?

Very important with this cloud storage is to get it first and first where the data is going to be stored: EU or USA data center jurisdiction ! Get this very well and then you can move to background technology & processes !
Don't forget that politics moves the byte through the fiber,across the ocean' floor bed !

But,to give you a neutral advice...
One that has some effect on our shores,from here !

...or...

please take your time and continue here

Have fun and let us know your opinion !

[NoDrama]

For years a "cloud" was on a network diagram to represent a bunch of magic stuff that just worked despite us not knowing how.

[kippy]

Originally Posted by NoDrama

For years a "cloud" was on a network diagram to represent a bunch of magic stuff that just worked despite us not knowing how.

Who is this "Us" you speak about?

[NoDrama]

Originally Posted by kippy

Who is this "Us" you speak about?

Maybe I worded that wrong, really just wanted state that it has being used in Diagrams to represent networks for years, such as in Forouzan's book which I used in college and many others.

[laugh]

Gmail is a true cloud service, 99% of what is being sold as the cloud is not the cloud.

[Cork24]

Cloud Computing is just another word for WAN Networking..

in my eyes anyway

[Eoin]

Does a WAN not imply that there are still physical servers belonging to the organisation, just in far away locations?