[Martin Walker]

Originally Posted by gillad

Im the same,Im looking for the truth and trying to understand everything.

Thats a big ask. Theres this guy called Stephen Hawkins doing the same, you should look him up. Personally i think this thread is either a troll job or you are a bit crazy. Stop thinking too much man it will do you good.

[gillad]

Originally Posted by Martin Walker

Thats a big ask. Theres this guy called Stephen Hawkins doing the same, you should look him up. Personally i think this thread is either a troll job or you are a bit crazy. Stop thinking too much man it will do you good.

All ways of thinking that dont fit with the norm are considered crazy until proven.The world is round.The earth revolves around the sun are some.
Thinking about everything has done me the world of good man

[EnterNow]

I very much doubt starving children in third world countries are feeling any consciousness shift, or the likes of people in Syria, Bahrain, & all the many many many other places on Earth where there is horrendous suffering going on this very minute.

As for the 'clean up' notion, that's a tough one to latch onto for me.

[gillad]

The clean up notion is a tough one to believe and im unsure about it.I heard it somewhere and decided to post it.
Im sure that there are people in all parts of the world feeling this regardless of war or famine.You will feel it/know it whether your suffering or not.

[EnterNow]

Originally Posted by gillad

The clean up notion is a tough one to believe and im unsure about it.I heard it somewhere and decided to post it.
Im sure that there are people in all parts of the world feeling this regardless of war or famine.You will feel it/know it whether your suffering or not.

I know you or someone mentioned you have to be 'open to it' to feel it. But that's just it, if your feeling positive & open to it, to me that means your already content & well. Would suffering people who feel despair/yearning for better be considered open to it? If so, there's many out there it's skipping.

I'm not shooting down the idea at all, it's a tough one to believe in though

[gillad]

Originally Posted by EnterNow

I know you or someone mentioned you have to be 'open to it' to feel it. But that's just it, if your feeling positive & open to it, to me that means your already content & well. Would suffering people who feel despair/yearning for better be considered open to it? If so, there's many out there it's skipping.

I'm not shooting down the idea at all, it's a tough one to believe in though

People that are open already have been feeling this for a while.I wasnt content and well when i started exploring this new way of thinking but i am now because of it.This is only the beginning and its going to take a long long time for the whole human race to understand so its going to skip most of the worlds population for now(it may be picking people that are not afraid to spread the word).Science will prove it eventually but at the moment science doesnt understand the power of the conscious and subconscious and i think over 90% of the brain/mind is subconscious so we have lots to learn about ourselves

[MrMojoRisin]

Originally Posted by EnterNow

I know you or someone mentioned you have to be 'open to it' to feel it. But that's just it, if your feeling positive & open to it, to me that means your already content & well. Would suffering people who feel despair/yearning for better be considered open to it? If so, there's many out there it's skipping.

I'm not shooting down the idea at all, it's a tough one to believe in though

I'm not sure about all this either, but one thing I would say is that the newly-acquired 'spiritual openness' (for lack of a more appropriate term) doesn't just cover feeling positive all of a sudden. I think it might have more to do with being more aware, seeing reality for what it is (both good and bad), and thus finding a sort of liberation in that, irrespective of your material circumstances.

I know there are a lot of places that are going through a horrendous time at the moment but, in Bahrain, for instance, thousands there are fighting for their rights against all odds. Just today, tends of thousands of Bahraini people spilled out on to a highway, demanding the Formula One tournament to be halted as a demonstration of the people's anger at the government-led dissent and violence there. There have been clashes between protestors and the police every day for months, but people still haven't given up their fight for democracy. One jailed activist has been on a two-month hunger strike.

I think that, as bad as things are, it's good to see that all these people finally have the balls to stand up and say what they want after years of being under the thumb of corrupt and oppressive political rule.

Maybe that's what the consciousness shift is all about? People are seeing things with more clarity and are willing to try to make necessary changes for the better in their own communities.

[gillad]

Originally Posted by MrMojoRisin

I'm not sure about all this either, but one thing I would say is that the newly-acquired 'spiritual openness' (for lack of a more appropriate term) doesn't just cover feeling positive all of a sudden. I think it might have more to do with being more aware, seeing reality for what it is (both good and bad), and thus finding a sort of liberation in that, irrespective of your material circumstances.

I know there are a lot of places that are going through a horrendous time at the moment but, in Bahrain, for instance, thousands there are fighting for their rights against all odds. Just today, tends of thousands of Bahraini people spilled out on to a highway, demanding the Formula One tournament to be halted as a demonstration of the people's anger at the government-led dissent and violence there. There have been clashes between protestors and the police every day for months, but people still haven't given up their fight for democracy. One jailed activist has been on a two-month hunger strike.

I think that, as bad as things are, it's good to see that all these people finally have the balls to stand up and say what they want after years of being under the thumb of corrupt and oppressive political rule.

Maybe that's what the consciousness shift is all about? People are seeing things with more clarity and are willing to try to make necessary changes for the better in their own communities.

Exellent post that describes part of what is going on

[kickarykee]

I think that a lot of what's going on might also be due to the fact that people are simply fed up with how everything's working and as they are feeling more stressed out and frustrated they finally go back to paying attention to things people used to know and care about - like spirituality in a sense of paying attention to your inner self again, listening to the world around you, trying to see things in different ways ...

I'm neither denying nor confirming that there's something going on on a spiritual level, but I wonder whether people are acting differently because something is going on or if this "something" isn't actually people finally starting to think differently and this manifesting on the general spiritual level of the world.

[EnterNow]

Originally Posted by MrMojoRisin

Maybe that's what the consciousness shift is all about?

Very good points, I never thought of it that way.

[MrMojoRisin]

Originally Posted by kickarykee

I think that a lot of what's going on might also be due to the fact that people are simply fed up with how everything's working and as they are feeling more stressed out and frustrated they finally go back to paying attention to things people used to know and care about - like spirituality in a sense of paying attention to your inner self again, listening to the world around you, trying to see things in different ways ...

I'm neither denying nor confirming that there's something going on on a spiritual level, but I wonder whether people are acting differently because something is going on or if this "something" isn't actually people finally starting to think differently and this manifesting on the general spiritual level of the world.

Yeah, I'd say a lot of people are realising the truth in the old cliche "Money can't buy you happiness" and are streamlining their lives and readjusting their values as a result.

I suppose many millions of people have spent hundreds of years giving their power away to people they thought they could trust, i.e. governments, and, having seen that all politicians are untrustworthy, they're taking back their power again. There might be more governing done in local communities, at grassroots level, in the not-too-distant future; at least that way, the people can keep a close eye on what exactly is being done and spent supposedly on their behalf.