[Madam]

Originally Posted by Dudess

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Are those really any different from Ireland?

[Cavehill Red]

Originally Posted by Wibbs

Apparently he never actually said that(If it's Wellington we're speaking of).

I'm rather gratified to hear that, if it's the case. It always irked me that Dublin boasts a large monument to a man notorious for disowning the place of his own birth in such a derogatory fashion. This fact should be more widely publicised.

[Dub Ste]

Originally Posted by LordSutch

Born in England and not British, so I guess that you're English then, or maybe Irish?

Not sure,ask Phil Lynott,Shane McGowan,Paul McGrath,Sean Moncrieff maybe??

[Wibbs]

Originally Posted by Cavehill Red

I'm rather gratified to hear that, if it's the case. It always irked me that Dublin boasts a large monument to a man notorious for disowning the place of his own birth in such a derogatory fashion. This fact should be more widely publicised.

I agree. In fact it was Daniel O'Connell who said it of Wellingtons Irish birth. Wellington never made such a comparison. Wellington for his part suffered a lot of public outcry over his resolute support for Catholic emancipation, with his detractors screaming about his support for "popery". He was no republican, he saw himself as British(as did many Irish men and women at the time and not just Protestant), but he was no Cromwell either.

[Cavehill Red]

Originally Posted by Wibbs

I agree. In fact it was Daniel O'Connell who said it of Wellingtons Irish birth. Wellington never made such a comparison. Wellington for his part suffered a lot of public outcry over his resolute support for Catholic emancipation, with his detractors screaming about his support for "popery". He was no republican, he saw himself as British(as did many Irish men and women at the time and not just Protestant), but he was no Cromwell either.

The version I think I heard was that it had been said by Wellington in response to barracking from the opposition in parliament over his place of birth.
Interesting that it was actually O'Connell who said it of him.

[Yeah Yeah Yeah]

Well we're not refusing the big wads of British cash to bail out our banks are we?

[mike65]

A bunch of foreigners going on about London

[Yomino66]

No

[Galwayguy35]

Originally Posted by paddyandy

What is exactly British or Irish ??????

Huh? Well British means you are born in the UK mainland or if you are unionist in NI.

[RiseToTheTop]

My great grandfather came from Scotland.