[Maravilla33]

Originally Posted by cowzerp

He was injured with his best weapon in his last fight and still had an easy win-Vitali is as good as ever and in this day and age if you look after yourself at 40 you can be at peak, yes the tide is turning and could start now or maybe next year but their is nothing right now to suggest he is on the slide, a fight with an injury where he cant use his best weapons proves nothing.

At 38 Lewis was very capable and it's a cop out to suggest anything else-Lewis at 38 was definitely better than the skinnier 28 year old version in 93 that Bruno punched around!!

He's so slow these days. He's like a mummy in one of those old horror movies ambling after some helpless victim. What i find funny is you don't rate a lot of old timers. I'm sure you look at footage and think man they're slow and one dimensional but you could easily say the same about Vitali. I don't watch him and think wow hes great. I think hes very big and uses that exceptionally well.

Some fighters seem to get better with age but its not the norm and Vitali certainly aint one of them.

[cowzerp]

Originally Posted by Maravilla33

What i find funny is you don't rate a lot of old timers. I'm sure you look at footage and think man they're slow and one dimensional but you could easily say the same about Vitali. I don't watch him and think wow hes great. I think hes very big and uses that exceptionally well.

That's because some of the old timers who are highly rated lacked skill-they where just tough and strong, easily beaten by fighters with good skills such as most average Boxers nowadays-Boxing in the good old days in general was shiite only for 1 or 2 exceptions who stood out as above the rubbish such as Ray Robinson and Joe Louis, and all joking aside they would not be the best now if they where around-they'd be good but just another boxer, They deserve credit for been years ahead of their times.

Originally Posted by Maravilla33

Some fighters seem to get better with age but its not the norm and Vitali certainly aint one of them.

Vitali has always been great though and has not diminished, you basing his level off a fight he done without proper use of his left arm for 11 rounds is BS to say the least.

[Maravilla33]

I'm not basing it on only the Chisora fight. He hasn't looked great in a good while. He's still much better than the lads hes facing but that's not saying a lot. Hes definitely slowed down. No shame in that hes 40.

Technique wise boxings still the same today as it was in the 50s. There's been no great moves or punches invented or developed has there? The aim of the game is still to hit and not be hit. They fought a lot more back then too so more chance to practice, hone and develop their skills. To call some of the great fighters of yesteryear rubbish is ridiculous.

[walshb]

Originally Posted by cowzerp

Ray Robinson and Joe Louis, and all joking aside they would not be the best now if they where around-they'd be good but just another boxer, They deserve credit for been years ahead of their times.
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Please tell me you are joking?

Matthew Macklin and Lee and Chavez and Martinez and Barker etc. SRR just like them? He'd beat all them in one night, without a break.