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03-03-2012, 11:33   #16
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Either way it didnt help he tapped out last night haha
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Either way it didnt help he tapped out last nisght haha
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I don't doubt he had an extreme cut but I would say there's at least a few lbs of exaggeration there or maybe the scale is out. The pic was posted by Dolce and he has a reason to exaggerate.

Even if you allow for a couple of lbs of food it's still 25lbs fluid or ~13% bodyweight.

There's no way to do that 'properly', any medical professional would advise against it and these guys in the UFC have medical teams with IVs standing by. Rumble couldn't feel his legs and was very dizzy towards the end of his aborted cut.

Definitely a 'big deal' and not a chance anybody fighting on small cards here is doing that kind of cut. You're approaching fatal levels of dehdration with that kind of fluid loss. That's why I think its exaggerated.
unless you've done it you cant say, look at cathal how he makes 77 is a miracle to me, jk must be pumping him full of helium before weigh ins
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Not defending the lad posting the spoiler, but if you don't want the fight spoiled but then not only go onto the MMA forum on Boards, but actually go into a thread discussing the fight the day after said fight...............
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Not defending the lad posting the spoiler, but if you don't want the fight spoiled but then not only go onto the MMA forum on Boards, but actually go into a thread discussing the fight the day after said fight...............
??

I went into a thread discussing weight and pre fight, I haven't gone into the big Alves V Kampmann thread as I know it will contain spoilers.

No worries though.
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I went into a thread discussing weight and pre fight, I haven't gone into the big Alves V Kampmann thread as I know it will contain spoilers.

No worries though.
I understand that, but if i really didn't want the fight spoiled I wouldn't go into a thread discussing one of the participants. That's just me though!
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I just avoid every outlet with any mention of MMA until I have seen the event... Not just individual threads. I already had Diaz-Condit and Edgar-Bendo ruined by just logging into facebook
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A powerlifters perspective on weight cutting - http://www.elitefts.com/documents/cu...t_for_comp.htm

I wouldn't necessarily agree with it, but people were asking how it's done. So there's a method.
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Not defending the lad posting the spoiler, but if you don't want the fight spoiled but then not only go onto the MMA forum on Boards, but actually go into a thread discussing the fight the day after said fight...............
Cheers, i assumed people would have seen the fight before going into any related thread.
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2 stone in 3 hours? How is that even possible?
It's big, defo the upper end of the spectrum, but I don't thinks its as unbelievable as people are suggesting.


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Apparently drinking a gallon of water is the equivalent of 8 pounds for these top level athletes.

So says Joe Rogan anyways...
It's easy to work out. 1 gallon is 3.785 litres (therefore the same in kilos), which is 8.3 lbs. It would be essentailly the same for dioralyte type stuff they they are drinking, plus is absorbed easier.
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I think this comes down to body type, some people are just able to cut a lot of weight, others aren't. Alves has always looked huge for the weight class, his upper body is yoked up to go holy fook compared to anybody else in the division. It must be down to body composition, whatever it is about his body is suited to shedding a lot of water weight. I don't think this is an argument against the weight class or the timing of weigh ins, because there will always be dudes who are better at it than others and they will have a perceived advantage because of this, even with weigh ins on the day of the fight (which are dangerous anyway, apparently).

And anyway, size isn't necessarily the be all and end all. Look at Jon Jones. He is naturally a lighter guy than Rampage (pretty sure Quintin walks around at 220 plus), but he pretty much clowned Jackson when they came together. It came down to skills, like it does 99% of the time (excluding freak occurrences like Sapp v Hoost, but how often do we see that kind of thing?). Alves is the real deal, heavier or not. He'd do damage even if he didn't have this kind of weight cutting ability, but fair play to Kampman, he got the better of him on the night.

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And anyway, size isn't necessarily the be all and end all. Look at Jon Jones. He is naturally a lighter guy than Rampage (pretty sure Quintin walks around at 220 plus),
Yeah, despite what people often think Jones isn't a Big LHW. But he isn't, not in terms of mass. He's tall with a huge span. But he wieghs about 220. The bigger guys are around 230. For his last fight Rampage was trying to cut down from 232lbs.
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