[Paully D]

Originally Posted by kmart6

Hope they haven't rushed him back....have to think of the long term!

Very true. I do think he's fit though, it's not like Thibs to rush players back in fairness to him.

[kmart6]

No, but don't forget he got Deng to play something like 46 mins in his first game back from injury...poor whore will prob play 40+ in the All-Star game!

[kmart6]

And now for all the Melo and Lin can't play together talk!

Much better on the TO front from Lin tonight, nearly half his points in garbage time though....first career game to foul out of!

[Carcharodon]

Originally Posted by kmart6

No, there will be realists!

He's the PG...it's his job to carry the possession so it doesn't make him any different to other PG's! If others had as many To's they would be getting crucified, but it's being over looked completely here so the story can keep getting hyped!

Yeah it's a great story, but it's not like he's some Rookie straight out of High School/College...he's been around the league for over a year!

If he is still performing like this on a months time then that'll be different, as of now it's only been two weeks!



And now for all the Melo and Lin can't play together talk!

Much better on the TO front from Lin tonight, nearly half his points in garbage time though....first career game to foul out of!

You are definitely a glass half empty person....

Media are obviously blowing the whole thing up but he is producing some good numbers and being effective.
He is not far off being a rookie, he has spent the past year being shipped around the league which makes the turnaround that more impressive.
I can overlook the turnovers for now, he is being aggressive and will learn from it.
Time will tell what kind of player he will become in the long term, should have a solid enough career by the looks of it.

Cant stand Melo but if he can leave his ego at the door then he should be able to fit in to the team, dont think he will have a choice with the NY fans.

Will be interesting to see how Davis fits in now, was supposed to be in great shape before the season started but picked up another injury, he is sensational when playing well.

[kmart6]

Originally Posted by Carcharodon

You are definitely a glass half empty person...

Attack the post, not the poster!

Originally Posted by Carcharodon

He is not far off being a rookie, he has spent the past year being shipped around the league which makes the turnaround that more impressive.

What are you on about?! He is miles off being a Rookie!

He spent the entire last season with Golden State, yeah he had pre-season with Houston this year, but has been with the Knicks since their 1st game!

Up and down to the D league is natural for someone who isn't playing much and a team is over stocked at a position!

So your 'shipped around the league' is a load of bull!

[Memnoch]

Originally Posted by kmart6

Attack the post, not the poster!



What are you on about?! He is miles off being a Rookie!

He spent the entire last season with Golden State, yeah he had pre-season with Houston this year, but has been with the Knicks since their 1st game!

Up and down to the D league is natural for someone who isn't playing much and a team is over stocked at a position!

So your 'shipped around the league' is a load of bull!

It's not a load of bull. Just being on a team and practising with them isn't good enough. For a player to really develop to their maximum potential you have to actually play. That's what makes Lin like a rookie, the fact that before this he's hardly had any playing time in the NBA proper, till two weeks ago.

It's the same in football.

[Carcharodon]

Originally Posted by kmart6

Attack the post, not the poster!



What are you on about?! He is miles off being a Rookie!

He spent the entire last season with Golden State, yeah he had pre-season with Houston this year, but has been with the Knicks since their 1st game!

Up and down to the D league is natural for someone who isn't playing much and a team is over stocked at a position!

So your 'shipped around the league' is a load of bull!

Was not meant to be a "attack" but my sorry all the same.

I do realize he has been around for a while or as others would say, a year !
After his initial bit of hype in the bay, he received very little time on the floor and that is what its all about.
Pre season was a bit of a mess with the lockout and all that stuff, I am sure he gained some valuable experience with these teams but going to play in the garden and doing so well is still a great achievement no matter how you may try and downplay it.

[leggo]

I'd see his football equivalent as Tom Cleverley. Played with Wigan, has been knocking around a while now but only really came to prominence this season.

Now, imagine that United were in serious crisis losing game after game with Champions League qualification looking unlikely (yes I recognise this isn't far off but they're still ticking over), imagine Cleverley's goals and assists were the only thing keeping them going and, as a young player, he led experienced guys like Rooney, Carrick, Ferdinand etc back to prominence. And he did so against quality opposition like Chelsea, Spurs etc.

That's before you even take ethnicity into account. Imagine this was an Irish player doing it and how he'd inspire a generation of basketball players over here. When has it been a common occurrence for Irish kids to grow up saying they wanna be professional NBA players? I've only known a few and I played basketball for years!

That's what Jeremy Lin has done. Has the media coverage been insane? Of course, but they needed to fill a void once football season ended. I hope the couple losses will calm the hype machine now and let him get on with it. But is he worth the hype? Oh yeah.

[kmart6]

Seriously, comparing Cleverley a player who was touted as being something special to Lin?! There's nothing similar about them!

[leggo]

Originally Posted by kmart6

Seriously, comparing Cleverley a player who was touted as being something special to Lin?! There's nothing similar about them!

No he wasn't. Unless you count the odd message board post by fans who tip every reserve for glory in advance so they can say "I told you so" if they later go onto glory. He didn't even get Ravel Morrisson type of buzz. He had a decent run at Wigan but was never seen as anything special until the Charity Shield this year when he bossed the midfield vs City. A perfect example of someone who hadn't done that much before stepping up for a big team and coming of age on a massive stage (though due to injury he hasn't had near the impact of Lin). If anything, it bears more resemblance to your theory that Lin didn't 'come from nowhere'.

Though, on reflection, Liverpool would be the closer football equivalent to the Knicks: a massive franchise with a huge history and passionate following, now languishing.

[Borisss]

Originally Posted by kmart6

Seriously, comparing Cleverley a player who was touted as being something special to Lin?! There's nothing similar about them!

By United fans maybe.

He'll never even surpass a Carrick-esque ceiling of ability.

[Lirange]

Lin has just made a second consecutive cover of SI. Has that ever happened before? I know he deserves some ink but that's a bit of overkill.

[kmart6]

Yes, both Dirk and MJ and that's only NBA!

[padraig_f]

NBA Dunk Contest favorite Shumpert drops out with injury, inserting … Jeremy Evans?

Chase Budinger is now second-favorite to win the dunk contest.

[Paully D]

Won't get to watch the 2nd half, but I really enjoyed that 1st half of Knicks @ Heat.

51-47 to Miami at the half.

Great pace to the game, some great plays on both offense and defense. Disappointed with Lin though, Chalmers has done a great job on him so far and he's been a turnover machine. 6 TO's, 2 points, 2 assists in the 1st half for Lin.

No doubt I'll wake up to see that he's taken over in the 2nd half and won the game for the Knicks after I've said that They'll have to be happy with only being down by 4 despite all the TO's.

Here's a good link if anyone needs it:

http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/35857/2/n...am-online.html