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Gae · 12-01-2012, 14:36

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Originally Posted by thunderdog

Ha yeah rwith regards to CCTV apparently a lot of the cameras on campus can pick up on sound as well....so can listen in to a conversation!Ha not sure how true this is though

Highly doubt it since it would be hard to justify under data protection rules.

Groinshot · 12-01-2012, 17:05

Surely Data protection would have provisions to deal with video footage etc, which can capture deaf peoples conversations... Besides, judging on the rights we have as tenants, I wouldn't be surprised if by stepping onto College grounds we have absolutely no rights as human beings...

oppenheimer1 · 17-01-2012, 00:25

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Originally Posted by Groinshot

Surely Data protection would have provisions to deal with video footage etc, which can capture deaf peoples conversations... Besides, judging on the rights we have as tenants, I wouldn't be surprised if by stepping onto College grounds we have absolutely no rights as human beings...

You are not tenants but paying guests of the provost.

Need a way into campus after hours? befriend a mathematician.

Groinshot · 17-01-2012, 10:23

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Originally Posted by oppenheimer1

You are not tenants but paying guests of the provost.

Was implied, but thanks for correcting that. Altered my post.

Ahoyhoy · 18-01-2012, 23:40

The single best way I have ever seen this done is as follows, however, it only works with other Trinity students:

The actual tenant reports to security that they've lost their key card (this is no big deal, they just make one up for you straight away) and give the 'lost' card to your not signed in guest.

Have an actual tenant at the front of your group approaching front gate.

The person who is neither tenant nor guest walks behind, behaving like they don't know the other two. Make sure you do this from a sufficient distance from the gate so the cameras don't pick ye up.

The actual tenant knocks on the door, acts a bit drunk (or is actually drunk) and flashes their key card at security (key card only mind!) and says "resident and guest" or "tenant and guest", your preference.

At this point the unsigned is waiting behind them

Security then asks to see a student card at which point the tenant fumbles drunkenly trying to find their student card.

This goes on for a suitably long moment before the unsigned impatiently flashes student card and key card and sort of rolls their eyes at security who lets them pass because "Oh, look at the silly person without their student card, delaying everyone".

At this point you've probably realised another student card is needed. So basically this only works really well with other Trinity students, buuuuuut you could ask to borrow someone else's and trust that security won't check their student card and will just accept it when it's flashed at them. That said, if you get caught, the person who lent them the student card is in trouble too.

All that said, just e-mail the JD, it's considerably easier. Security cannot be nagged, bribed, persuaded or reasoned with. Try to e-mail an assistant though as the current JD is ****e and takes forever to reply to e-mails. Never thought I'd miss Emma Stokes...

MileyByrne · 19-01-2012, 12:39

Back in the day, when Lincoln gate was being restored, you used to be able to just about squeeze between the gate and the wall. Was a good way of ensuring you didn't bring back a fat bird.

Easiest way in now is to jump over Lincoln gate. It's got plenty of suitable footholes in the ironwork.

The maths entrance onto Westland Row is gone long ago.

Getting a Pearse Street staff key (entrance opposite Garda station) is a good way in too - though watch out for the cameras...

Unfortunately for today's undergraduates, the proliferation of CCTV in the college has severely hampered efforts.

If I were to chance it in 2012, I'd probably jump over the railings at Nassau Street near the draw bridge. No security around there.

thunderdog · 19-01-2012, 14:21

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Originally Posted by MileyByrne

Back in the day, when Lincoln gate was being restored, you used to be able to just about squeeze between the gate and the wall. Was a good way of ensuring you didn't bring back a fat bird.

Easiest way in now is to jump over Lincoln gate. It's got plenty of suitable footholes in the ironwork.

The maths entrance onto Westland Row is gone long ago.

Getting a Pearse Street staff key (entrance opposite Garda station) is a good way in too - though watch out for the cameras...

Unfortunately for today's undergraduates, the proliferation of CCTV in the college has severely hampered efforts.

If I were to chance it in 2012, I'd probably jump over the railings at Nassau Street near the draw bridge. No security around there.

Ha nice!

Podge_irl · 20-01-2012, 19:12

When living in Goldsmith you swiped in and security only stopped you if there was more then one person walking in at a time generally. My window was out onto Pearse st. so I'd just go up, put my key card in a box of matches and fling it out the window to my friend waiting below. Worked a charm.

Security in Goldsmith seemed to be even more unpleasant then those at front arch.

blubloblu · 20-01-2012, 19:25

In related news, apparently you can now officially leave your student card with security at Front Gate and return after midnight to study in the 24hr room.

Pet · 20-01-2012, 19:42

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Originally Posted by blubloblu

In related news, apparently you can now officially leave your student card with security at Front Gate and return after midnight to study in the 24hr room.

Source?

blubloblu · 20-01-2012, 22:08

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Originally Posted by Pet

Source?

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1I...A0ZGRhZDA2MGQ0

Page 10

Kwekubo · 20-01-2012, 22:23

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Originally Posted by blubloblu

https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B1I...A0ZGRhZDA2MGQ0

Page 10

It's all the union's fault, rabble rabble etc.

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12-01-2012, 17:05	#17
Groinshot Registered User Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,020 Adverts \| Friends	Surely Data protection would have provisions to deal with video footage etc, which can capture deaf peoples conversations... Besides, judging on the rights we have as tenants, I wouldn't be surprised if by stepping onto College grounds we have absolutely no rights as human beings...

18-01-2012, 23:40	#20
Ahoyhoy Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Dublin Posts: 181 Adverts \| Friends	The single best way I have ever seen this done is as follows, however, it only works with other Trinity students: The actual tenant reports to security that they've lost their key card (this is no big deal, they just make one up for you straight away) and give the 'lost' card to your not signed in guest. Have an actual tenant at the front of your group approaching front gate. The person who is neither tenant nor guest walks behind, behaving like they don't know the other two. Make sure you do this from a sufficient distance from the gate so the cameras don't pick ye up. The actual tenant knocks on the door, acts a bit drunk (or is actually drunk) and flashes their key card at security (key card only mind!) and says "resident and guest" or "tenant and guest", your preference. At this point the unsigned is waiting behind them Security then asks to see a student card at which point the tenant fumbles drunkenly trying to find their student card. This goes on for a suitably long moment before the unsigned impatiently flashes student card and key card and sort of rolls their eyes at security who lets them pass because "Oh, look at the silly person without their student card, delaying everyone". At this point you've probably realised another student card is needed. So basically this only works really well with other Trinity students, buuuuuut you could ask to borrow someone else's and trust that security won't check their student card and will just accept it when it's flashed at them. That said, if you get caught, the person who lent them the student card is in trouble too. All that said, just e-mail the JD, it's considerably easier. Security cannot be nagged, bribed, persuaded or reasoned with. Try to e-mail an assistant though as the current JD is ****e and takes forever to reply to e-mails. Never thought I'd miss Emma Stokes...

19-01-2012, 12:39	#21
MileyByrne Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 15 Adverts \| Friends	Back in the day, when Lincoln gate was being restored, you used to be able to just about squeeze between the gate and the wall. Was a good way of ensuring you didn't bring back a fat bird. Easiest way in now is to jump over Lincoln gate. It's got plenty of suitable footholes in the ironwork. The maths entrance onto Westland Row is gone long ago. Getting a Pearse Street staff key (entrance opposite Garda station) is a good way in too - though watch out for the cameras... Unfortunately for today's undergraduates, the proliferation of CCTV in the college has severely hampered efforts. If I were to chance it in 2012, I'd probably jump over the railings at Nassau Street near the draw bridge. No security around there.

20-01-2012, 19:12	#23
Podge_irl Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Dublin Posts: 8,641 Adverts \| Friends	When living in Goldsmith you swiped in and security only stopped you if there was more then one person walking in at a time generally. My window was out onto Pearse st. so I'd just go up, put my key card in a box of matches and fling it out the window to my friend waiting below. Worked a charm. Security in Goldsmith seemed to be even more unpleasant then those at front arch.

20-01-2012, 19:25	#24
blubloblu Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,138 Adverts \| Friends	In related news, apparently you can now officially leave your student card with security at Front Gate and return after midnight to study in the 24hr room.