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16-11-2010, 21:04   #16
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If you're looking for a cute, low shed, good natured breed that's good with kids I would thoroughly recommend a cavachon. Some people call them designer dogs, others call them planned mongrels but whatever you want to call them they're adorable. They're a cross between a Bichon and King Charles Cavalier.
As many of the pure breeds are over-bred some tend to have behavioral or health problems, but the cross-breeding helps eliminate this. We have Jessie, our Cavachon 8 months now, and she hasn't snapped once and has never been sick. She adores kids, and is extremely gentle with them, and gets on great with other dogs.
There's no such thing as non-shed, but she's pretty close, we get a few hairs now and then but nothing worth talking about.
She loves her walks, but loves cuddling up in front of the fire even more. If you have any questions about the breed just ask. Good luck, and enjoy your puppy when you get it...they're such fun
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I have a Japanese Spitz who's almost 10, here are the pro's and con's as I have found them:

Pro's:
*They are a v.healthy breed, very few health problems.
*They have no oil in their coat so it doesn't attract dirt or odours (no doggy smell). Any dirt that does get on the coat can be easily brushed out to bring them back to their snow white coat again.
*Intelligent, easy to train dogs.
*Despite their long coat they are not excessive shedder (except when they drop their coat twice a year).
*Great guard dogs, no one will get into your home without the neighbourhood knowing about it

Con's
*Can be hyper if not exercised daily or given too much protein.
*Needs to be groomed thoroughly 2-3 times a week but only bathed about twice a year. Be careful when grooming as the coat is a 'dry' coat and the hairs can break easily if over or too roughly groomed.
*Can be known to bark excessively, they need to be taught at an early age that this is not acceptable.
*Can be a very 'one person' dog and wary of strangers if not socialised enough when young.

Overall a smashing little dog and by far one of the easiest I've ever raised. I call Ben, my Spitz, my bomb proof dog, I can trust him anywhere and with anyone, but as with all dogs the work has to be put in when they are young.
Hope this helps and good luck!
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Hi, We are thinking of getting a Cavachon puppy this summer. Can you tell me where you got yours? I am also wondering about Care of the dog, as a puppy I understand they are easy to train. Did you find this? I am also concerned about chewing, did you find the puppy chewed everything? I know they will chew but are they good at sticking to their toys ?

In terms of the kids too, I have 4 young children the yougest will be almost 2 when we get the puppy do you think a cavahon will be OK with this young child?

Thanks in advance!
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19-02-2011, 21:39   #19
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Please reconsider your breed.
The cavachon is not a breed, its a mongrel and mostly bred by back yard breeders and puppy farmers to just line their pockets with little or no consideration for the health and welfare of the pups.

They intentionally cross 2 breeds, which by the way is against Irish Kennel Club rules, give it a fancy/stupid name like a Cavachon and rip people off by charging ridiculous prices, which are basically just mongrels.

There are plenty of mongrels/cross breeds free in rescues and pounds and there is no need to pay a couple of hundred for one off these dodgy breeders so please, please do your homework before buying any dog and stay away from these so called designer breeds.

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@Princess Aries mabey try dogstrust or a nearby shelter you never know, my parents dog is a small house dog she's a chihauaua (sp?) daxie cross and a rescue, my middle pooch is the prettiest dog in the whole world and only 7.5kg and also a rescue so small dogs come up looking for rescue places a lot.

If you do go for a pb dog I still say, unless there's kids that tend to be rough in the house and only if you have time because they love company a Papillon is the perfect little house dog, if the right breeder is chosen they are generally healthy as pbs go and so so cute but they are expensive but I remember one being in rescue a good while back but they don't come into rescue often.
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20-02-2011, 14:41   #21
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Hi, We are thinking of getting a Cavachon puppy this summer. Can you tell me where you got yours? I am also wondering about Care of the dog, as a puppy I understand they are easy to train. Did you find this? I am also concerned about chewing, did you find the puppy chewed everything? I know they will chew but are they good at sticking to their toys ?

In terms of the kids too, I have 4 young children the yougest will be almost 2 when we get the puppy do you think a cavahon will be OK with this young child?

Thanks in advance!
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Hi RandR,
We got ours near Ballyhea, in North Cork, through an advert on donedeal.ie. It was just a private home, the mum was a King Charles, their own family pet...nothing close to a puppy farm. We found her very easy to house train, and has always been well behaved in terms of chewing. She stuck to the toys that she was given and just chewed them, the only incident was with a pair of shoes that I left near her basket one night by mistake, and she assumed they were for her to play with....I think that was more my fault than hers though. Even then she didn't do too much damage to the shoes, as her teeth were so small. Other shoes, bags etc were her reach at other times and she never went near them.
All dogs vary a little depending on the nature of their parents, but speaking from my experience of our Cavachon, I would trust Jessie 100% with a 2 year old. We don't have kids, but have lots of nieces, nephews and friends kids, and she is always extremely gentle with them, she varies her style of play depending on the child, the smaller the child the gentler she plays.
As is evident from Andreac 's post, not everyone is in favour of cross breeding, but to be honest I haven't regretted my choice of dog for one second, she is the happiest, healthiest, nicest natured dog I know and I couldn't ask for anything more. If you need any other info just ask....best of luck with your pup.
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Hi Midgej,
Thanks so much for your prompt reply. I have no intention of buying from a puppy farm I would be very careful bout this. I have done significant research on which dog would be most suitable for our family and the Cavachon (cross breed or not) is certainly coming in the most suitable.

It is good to hear get confirmation that they are generally easy to train dogs that are child friendly. I'm more or less convinced now!
Just one more question did you get Pet Insurance?

Thanks again,
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Hi Midgej,
I have done significant research on which dog would be most suitable for our family and the Cavachon (cross breed or not) is certainly coming in the most suitable.
As you have done your re-search then I'm sure you are aware of the massive health issues rife within the CKC and that 60% don't live to reach their 5th birthday and 90% don't reach their 10th birthday. I wish you the best of luck trying to find some-one who fully health-tests their breeding dogs because I have never heard of any of these cross-breeders doing this. Reputable breeders do of course but they don't cross breed as it's against kennel club rules and they wouldn't have much of a reputation if they did. I have 4 kids here who would be absolutely heart-broken if anything happened to our dog so I can't imagine how badly they'd be affected if it were their own, so I'm glad I went for a breed which has a long life-span.

So, basically yes, well done for having done all your research on the 2 breeds involved and the best of luck finding a puppy which comes free of the problems people have bred into them because I think you are going to have a struggle on this one!
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Hi Midgej,
Thanks so much for your prompt reply. I have no intention of buying from a puppy farm I would be very careful bout this. I have done significant research on which dog would be most suitable for our family and the Cavachon (cross breed or not) is certainly coming in the most suitable.

It is good to hear get confirmation that they are generally easy to train dogs that are child friendly. I'm more or less convinced now!
Just one more question did you get Pet Insurance?

Thanks again,
R.
Do you not realise that the only people breeding these so called breeds like Cavachons are nothing but puppy farmers and backyard breeders?

Are you really that naive to think that these so called breeds are bred with care and attention?? Sorry to burst your bubble but its the exact opposite.

They are bred soley to make money easily for the so called breeder because they are given a ridiculous name like a Cavachon and foolish people hand over their money for these dogs which havent been health tested etc, so please, wake up and realise what really goes on with these designer breeds being bred by puppy farmers, as that is what they are!!
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Sorry to come across as a spoilsport here, but no responsible breeder would cross breed their dogs. Even if the dog is indoors in a lovely bed, that still means they are backyard breeders.
Bichons are prone to:
Bladder stones
Gum disease
Patellar luxations (dislocating knees)
Cushings disease (symptoms include constant thirst, constant panting, strange behavior, thinning of the hair, depression and even seizures)
Cataracts
Diabetes
Chronic ear infections
Dermatitis

Now, let's just add that to the list of Cavalier problems, because you have to try and understand that crossbreeding doesn't make the dog healthier, it doubles the risk of health problems.

Cavalier health issues:
Heart mitral valve disease
Syringomyelia (disorder of the brain and spinal cord that is extremely widespread in cavaliers)
Hip dysplasia
Brachcephalic airway obstruction syndrome
Collapsing Cavalier Syndrome- a syndrome of muscle stiffness and collapse
Seizures
Entropian
Retinal dysplasia
Syringohydromelia
Cataracts as well
Also patellar luxations

Just to name a few.

How can these dogs be healthy if they're prone to so many things? The answer, they're not. Sure, they might not be afflicted by any of these in the first two, maybe three years of their lives, and you'd be lucky to get that far without an issue. If you give money to these people who think its okay to breed whatever they want to make money, then they will continue to do so and Ireland's already vast problem of an overpopulation of stray and abused animals will only continue on.

So please, please reconsider. Why not just get a bichon, or a cavalier? And please dont continue to ignore the advice of the people who are trying to help you from making a decision that could ruin you, just because one person is telling you to go for it. I've known people who have paid out literally hundreds because they bought an unhealthy puppy, and unfortunately, some of them have died, or been PTS within the first few days of being brought home.
If you've worked at all with rescue animals, and seen some of the things that people here have, you would understand why we are so adamant to try and change as many minds as possible. We humans have already done so much damage to the canine species, please dont help fund those who are continually making it worse.

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We were given a present of a Yorkshire Terrier before Christmas. Here he is.

We had one some years ago for 11 years. The nicest little animal you could have in your home. Very well behaved; doesn't shed; and extremely loyal. The last one we had, Tiny, was the same. We had him before we had kids and he never, ever bothered them. He was a great pal to them. Great walkers. I would highly recommend them (possibly the full size one for the OP).

Footnote: they're also now crossing the Yorkies with the King Charles Cavalier spaniel.
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Just one more question did you get Pet Insurance?

Thanks again,
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Hi R,
No probs....yes, I have pet insurance, and would definitely recommend that you get it, no matter what type of dog you get - cross bred or otherwise. I haven't had to use the insurance, and hopefully never will, but wouldn't be without it. She was at the vets lately to be spayed and the vet gave her a full check up and a clean bill of health, but I definitely feel happier having the insurance in place. It would break my heart if Jessie needed an operation that we couldn't afford, it's much easier to just pay the monthly premium (ours is €12 a month), and at least I don't have to worry about any unexpected costs in the future.
Good luck with your puppy, I hope it brings you as much joy as Jessie has brought to us
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She was at the vets lately to be spayed and the vet gave her a full check up and a clean bill of health,
You had her tested for all the genetic conditions mentioned in the post above? Wow, how much did that cost?

R&R at whatever stage someone posts that they have mature cavalier/bichon cross with a 'clean bill of health' that might be some indication of 'proof'.

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Ok - Thank for all the responses. I appriciate all the different points of view. Whatever Puppy we get I think I will get the insurance anyway. R.
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Hi R,
No probs....yes, I have pet insurance, and would definitely recommend that you get it, no matter what type of dog you get - cross bred or otherwise. I haven't had to use the insurance, and hopefully never will, but wouldn't be without it. She was at the vets lately to be spayed and the vet gave her a full check up and a clean bill of health, but I definitely feel happier having the insurance in place. It would break my heart if Jessie needed an operation that we couldn't afford, it's much easier to just pay the monthly premium (ours is €12 a month), and at least I don't have to worry about any unexpected costs in the future.
Good luck with your puppy, I hope it brings you as much joy as Jessie has brought to us
Mind if I ask who the insurer is? We've been quoted €250 for a Yorkie by Allianz. I was a bit surprised TBH.
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