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View Poll Results: Erich Priebke - House Arrest terms
Yes - he should be permitted to leave for shopping/ Doctor / church 17 51.52%
No - he should not be permitted to leave his home 11 33.33%
Unsure - 5 15.15%
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06-10-2010, 16:30   #1
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Poll - Treatment of 97 yr old Erich Priebke

I thought this was an interesting story :

http://roma.repubblica.it/cronaca/20...bke-7720094/2/

http://breakingnews.ie/world/fury-as...op-476673.html

http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtop...4e8a98deb24ae5




A 97 year old man is serving a life sentence for 2 counts of murder. The terms of his sentence call for a house arrest with being permission to leave his home in order to attend his church, his doctor and shopping for things like food.

His sentence relates to an incident in 24 March 1944 in which 33 SS Polizei men were killed by partisans. 345 civilians were then killed in retaliation.

Erich Priebke admitted to shooting 2 civilians and assisting in the round up. His insistence was that he was following orders.

Does anyone think it is jusfitied that a 97 yr old can leave house arrest to attend church, the doctor and to go food shopping ? Or would you disagree with him being permitted to leave his home to attend Doctor, Church and for food shopping ?
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Always the same Lobby Groups Crying about Shoite like this, feckin sickens me, The Man was an SS Captain, Fair enough, but To cry foul about his being let out to go to the Supermarket, thats just petty and smallminded, but hey, who really expects more from the complainants.
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Elan Steinberg

from 2nd article

Elan Steinberg:
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“Holocaust survivors have reacted with shock and disbelief to news that this convicted Nazi killer could be allowed shopping trips and other excursions although sentenced to life imprisonment for his crimes,”
good old "Elan Stienberg", the daddy of all 'Holocaust hucksters'
why do i get the impression he's lying? (below)



trustworthy ?

our survey said "EH-ERRRRRR!!"

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Always the same Lobby Groups Crying about Shoite like this, feckin sickens me, The Man was an SS Captain, Fair enough, but To cry foul about his being let out to go to the Supermarket, thats just petty and smallminded, but hey, who really expects more from the complainants.
The man is a mass murdering monster.
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I’m all for war criminals facing justice, but if Mr Steinberg wants to make a meaningful gesture with regards to punishing war criminals, he could begin by looking a little closer to home, instead of whinging about people who are long dead.

What’s the point in punishing someone for something that happened 60 years ago, if you’re going to conveniently ignore what’s going on under your nose today.

Some consistancy would be nice. Unfortunately, for humanity, Steinberg and his ilk are not interested in Justice, just his pound of flesh, his position of privilige, and securing funding for his never ending hunt for Nazis under the Stairs, as usual.
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I’m all for war criminals facing justice, but if Mr Steinberg wants to make a meaningful gesture with regards to punishing war criminals, he could begin by looking a little closer to home, instead of whinging about people who are long dead.

What’s the point in punishing someone for something that happened 60 years ago, if you’re going to conveniently ignore what’s going on under your nose today.

Some consistancy would be nice. Unfortunately, for humanity, Steinberg and his ilk are not interested in Justice, just his pound of flesh, his position of privilige, and securing funding for his never ending hunt for Nazis under the Stairs, as usual.
Did Priebke participate in mass murder? Yes he did.

He is a criminal and a mass murderer.
Whether the crimes he committed them last year or 60 years ago whether he is his 37 or 97 years old makes no difference.
Whether war crimes are being committed today is beside the point.
Priebke should not be free to go to the shops.
He should be in a cell and never released for any reason.
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Whether war crimes are being committed today is beside the point.
Really ?

you know the difference between 'Justice' and 'Revenge' don't you ?

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I’m all for war criminals facing justice, but if Mr Steinberg wants to make a meaningful gesture with regards to punishing war criminals, he could begin by looking a little closer to home, instead of whinging about people who are long dead.

What’s the point in punishing someone for something that happened 60 years ago, if you’re going to conveniently ignore what’s going on under your nose today.

Some consistancy would be nice. Unfortunately, for humanity, Steinberg and his ilk are not interested in Justice, just his pound of flesh, his position of privilige, and securing funding for his never ending hunt for Nazis under the Stairs, as usual.
You got some nice whataboutery going on there. And a bit of godwinning too, well done, don't often see a two for one like that.
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You got some nice whataboutery going on there. And a bit of godwinning too, well done, don't often see a two for one like that.
Can you godwin if you are talking about the nazis?
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You got some nice whataboutery going on there. And a bit of godwinning too, well done, don't often see a two for one like that.
you've lost me there BlaasForRafa, as regards priebke, i'm one of only two who voted 'unsure' on the poll. Yes he should by all means pay for his crime, but i also think other people should practice what they preach.

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Really ?

you know the difference between 'Justice' and 'Revenge' don't you ?
The man - if you can a monster like Priepke a man - is lucky to live in a society which does not still hang draw and quarter murdering scum like him.

During the Second World War when the 45th Division liberated more than 30,000 prisoners at Dachau. They were so shocked and outraged at their horrendous treatment that they gunned down the SS camp guards or handed them over the able-bodied prisoners who killed them.

That was justice. Justice and revenge are one and the same.

If I got my hands on that Nazi puke, he would die screaming in agony.
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Can you godwin if you are talking about the nazis?
If you throw in the holocaust for sure.

I'm not sure why holocaust advocates are involved anyway. Wasn't this a massacre of italians and not jews?
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If you throw in the holocaust for sure.

I'm not sure why holocaust advocates are involved anyway. Wasn't this a massacre of italians and not jews?
I thought the whole point of Godwin law was that you mention it when not relevent?
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they gunned down the (unarmed) SS camp guards (who afaik arrived at the camp 48hrs before) or handed them over the able-bodied prisoners who killed them.
fyp

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That was justice. Justice and revenge are one and the same.
Is that a fact ? well that's certainly news to me

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If I got my hands on that Nazi puke, he would die screaming in agony.
Tell me, do you feel that way about all war criminals? Or just German ones?

.....somehow i think i already know the answer.

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I'm not sure why holocaust advocates are involved anyway. Wasn't this a massacre of italians and not jews?
neither do i tbh, (i'm talking about Steinberg here). As far as I'm concerned the evidence against Priebke is strong, he's serving a sentence for his crimes, and rightly so. However I also think the world would be a better place if more attention was paid to the precedent set by these trials, so we can try to ensure such things don't happen again, and that adherence to these precedents should apply to everyone in the future, without exception.
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Ah Marc, its Everyone Without Exception, except the Israelis Obviously.

I'm still disgusted at this, the man Killed some people, There was a WAR on,thats what his Job was (distasteful as some may find that) His Job was to maintain the Nazi Rule of Law, that he did, theonlyway the Nazis knew how, Brutally, There is no suggestionthat he was the one who decided onthis course of action, so HeFollowed orders, Orders that would have made perfect sense to him at the time. Only after the War did these men begin to be deprogrammed.

So Seing as I cant see this guy becoming a repeat offender, I cant see what the issue is.

Also its interesting to note that its a Jewish Group doing most of the Shouting, when there would have been very Few Jews killed that day, goes back to Marcsignals point about Nazi's under the stairs.
What was the quote from another thread
Jewish Groups admiting that there are no more Nazis to persecute
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Concern saying 'Ah them lads in the Third World are OK for Food this Year'
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