[GreenHand]

Originally Posted by PogMoThoin

No such thing, not to the ordinary customer anyway

must look it up on contract thats wat i thought it SAID

[Marlow]

Originally Posted by GreenHand

well it says on it No contention ratio means I don't have to share my connection with anyone else. which ithought meant 1 to 1

It's still rate-adaptive. If your line can't handle it, tough luck. If you check out Eircom, they have 48:1 or 24:1 contention, rate adaptive ness AND a CAP.

Also you upgrading to 24 mbit might not give you more than 8.5

If you want wirespeed, buy a leased line or fiber, that also would get you uncontended access. You might however realise, that broadband are expensive goods when you want quality instead of rubbish.

/Martin

[axer]

Originally Posted by GreenHand

must look it up on contract thats wat i thought it SAID

must look it up on contract thats wat i THOUGHT it said. Fixed.

[Nody]

Originally Posted by GreenHand

well it says on it No contention ratio means I don't have to share my connection with anyone else. which ithought meant 1 to 1

For that price you ARE sharing your bandwidth with a lot of other people before it goes out on the Internet, it is not a question of if but where. I know a company who ran no contention as advertisment and it was 1:1 ratio as long as you was in THEIR network; as soon as you left it though you where contended as any other connection.

[Marlow]

Originally Posted by Nody

For that price you ARE sharing your bandwidth with a lot of other people before it goes out on the Internet, it is not a question of if but where. I know a company who ran no contention as advertisment and it was 1:1 ratio as long as you was in THEIR network; as soon as you left it though you where contended as any other connection.

The contention outside any ISPs network is actually something, that is outside of any ISPs control.

Even though they might be buying their bandwidth 1:1 to what they are selling (which they are not) from carriers, they can never guarantee wirespeed all across the world. Uncontended is always within your ISPs network.

If you now are referring to, that they might have overcontended the internet connectivity, that they are buying (often referred to as transit or upstream), that's a complete different alley.

ISPs usually buy bandwidth according to their peak traffic pattern + a bit extra (typically 20%) or a connection, where they pay a fixed price and then pay extra if they use above their limit. Their circuits can be up to 3 times bigger than what they are paying for on their fixed fee. No ISP will ever spend money on bandwidth that is unused for years.

/Martin

[Nody]

Nah, they where simply selling you a 1:1 contention in their network but their actual internet pipe ran on a 50:1 ratio or worse depending on which node it connected out via.

[Marlow]

Originally Posted by Nody

Nah, they where simply selling you a 1:1 contention in their network but their actual internet pipe ran on a 50:1 ratio or worse depending on which node it connected out via.

Still, that only becomes a problem, if they have more traffic than the pipe can take at some point. If they manage their bandwidth properly and look to, that they upgrade once 80% is reached, you'd hardly notice it.

/Martin

[derry]

No way about it the info is not good and certianly needs polcing .As fro CoNreg what else do you expect from this regime.They set it up the TeleCoNs to rip yor face and then you go tell it to the CoNreg who get thiier salary from TelCons .
The 1:1 is just jumped up 1:1 and that not good eneogh as later down stream you share with others possibly contension ratios likiem 50:1.
The rate adaptative CON means that for example the guys with 1meg line you find the nearest to the exchange might get 0.9meg and the dip stick at the end say afew milkes away will be down in the 0.5 or even 0.2Meg if the line is noisy(other speeds 2meg 3meg etc will be pro rata )
My 3g speed test noiw so called ~7 meg never seen faster than ~2 meg and mostly ~0.5 and uplink is barely over 25k best case 56k no matter what time for the day it is .Trying to use 3g in flat land rathmines and similar forget it slows to a crawl if it works mostly wont connect for 20 minutes periods and cuts of every few minutes

Regime change is the only hope

Derry

[PogMoThoin]

Also a 1mbit DSL connection never delivers more than 750kbps, even next door to the exchange, its the overheads of the copper and the protocol used to deliver it to your house.
1mbit=max of ~750kbps
3mbit=max of ~2800kbps
7.6mbit=max of ~6600kbps