[jor el]

Well it starts in the States on ABC on the 29th of Sept. As for here, who knows?

I thought it was a class ending, such a thing to drop right at the end like that!

As for next season, rumers abound that Spoiler: Vaughn will be killed off. Lots of people not happy with that, I won't mind because it's been getting really annoying since about season 3 now. Spoiler: How many times did they fvck up the mission because they were too busy smooching or staring at each other? Too many. I just want to see who he really is if he's not really Vaughn.

Also, I believe Jennifer Garner is pregnant and they are writing this into the story, but it'll mean no more ass kicking for a while from her while she's up the duff. Alias is changing, hopefully not for the worse.

[Lump]

Season 4 is great.

I thought season3 went downhill a bit, but they've brought it back. It seems to happen with long running series, there's alway one crappy season, while the writers sort themselves out no doubt.

John

[LFCFan]

Originally Posted by jor el

Well it starts in the States on ABC on the 29th of Sept. As for here, who knows?

I thought it was a class ending, such a thing to drop right at the end like that!

As for next season, rumers abound that Spoiler: Vaughn will be killed off. Lots of people not happy with that, I won't mind because it's been getting really annoying since about season 3 now.Spoiler: How many times did they fvck up the mission because they were too busy smooching or staring at each other? Too many. I just want to see who he really is if he's not really Vaughn.

Also, I believe Jennifer Garner is pregnant and they are writing this into the story, but it'll mean no more ass kicking for a while from her while she's up the duff. Alias is changing, hopefully not for the worse.

Spoiler: If he's not really Vaughn they why was his father a Vaughn? Maybe that wasn't his dad at all but if that's the case why would be be visiting his Uncle and looking for his father? A lot of questions to be answered. The 1 thing that annoyed me most about series 4 though was Spoiler: the documents that Syd saw at the end of Series 3. They mentioned a Project and her name and that Jack was the project manager etc etc. None of this was explained and they just said the docs were about Jack killing Irena. Wonder will any of that crop up again. I really like the way they have developed Jacks character. We saw a more human side to him this series and he even tried a bit of humour

[tvnutz]

Ye it was a really good finale...at first I thought they might have been going a bit too far with the zombie thing,but it worked out really well,and the whole red ball thing made the city look really eery...sloane shooting nadia as well was good,but I liked her character...looks like she will be in limbo for a while,like Faith in Buffy.

[TCamen]

Have to say, I've been a huge Alias fan during S1-3, but S4 for me was quite poor. There was only about 3-4 truly great episodes (2 of which came @ the very end - "The Descent" and "Search and Rescue"). I thought that they'd finally gotten back on track and the finale would be great too, but I didn't think it was very good really.

The zombie city looked great, but I felt it was under-used, and Elena was defeated waaay too easily imo. She just kinda gave up when they caught her. Nadia going overground after being attacked in the subway tunnel instead of going down to where she knew the others were didn't make much sense (could've at least shown her going up to the street to escape other zombie ppl), -- it just meant she could get caught, and force the confrontation with Syd. The "confrontation" between the Chosen One and the Passenger was pretty damn poor after all the seasons of build-up -- that was Sydney's great mission and challenge? And instead of overcoming it herself, it came down to Sloane shooting Nadia? Everything about defeating Elena and stopping the Rambaldi orb felt rushed, which would've been ok if what followed somehow demanded more attention.

What we got was a cringy scene with Irina "You won't see me at your wedding but I'll see you" blewgh, it was awful. Then a non-existent extraction and flash-forward to Santa Barbara (at this stage I was desperately hoping it was a dream sequence and Syd had been shot by Sloane on the roof instead, and the missile strike was coming down on them, but sadly not). Spoiler: Putting them in a car instantly made me think crash, while nicely done wasn't exactly a thrilling cliffhanger, and as for Mr Not-Vaughn... I can wait forever to hear his deal :rolleyes:

So he lied about his name/past all this time, married Lauren and left the CIA in the 2 years Syd was gone, hunted for his dead father (also a Vaughn) -- all part of a master plan or a hasty retroactive re-write of his character? It remains to be seen how it'll work I guess, but it doesn't fill me with confidence for the new season, with the same executive producers still in charge and Garner's pregnancy being written into the show. I don't mind the idea of bringing in a new girl to go on missions instead, but the pregnancy being part of the storyline worries me. I could care less about Weiss' exit really, he's so minor I'd notice Director Chase suddenly disappearing more. ]

Spoiler: The 1 thing that annoyed me most about series 4 though was spoiler: the documents that Syd saw at the end of Series 3. They mentioned a Project and her name and that Jack was the project manager etc etc

I don't think they're ever going to come back and explain that. It was one of the things just dropped altogether to make way for the more standalone S4. It is REALLY annoying to not at least acknowledge that they showed the audience the files and clearly they had nothing to do with Irina.

All in all, hopefully S5 will be better than S4, I need it to be

It's funny the whole split of people who didn't like S3, but liked S4 and the other side of people who liked S3 and were disappointed with S4.

[jor el]

Originally Posted by TCamen

I don't think they're ever going to come back and explain that. It was one of the things just dropped altogether to make way for the more standalone S4. It is REALLY annoying to not at least acknowledge that they showed the audience the files and clearly they had nothing to do with Irina.

That's one bit I hete too. Didn't those documents mention the room number that Sydney saw in her flashbacks indicating that Jack knew where she was and what was happening to more of degree than he was letting on? Then all they explain is the bit about Jack ordering the hit on Irina. I'd like to see this come back into the story and add a bit of explanation.

It's funny the whole split of people who didn't like S3, but liked S4 and the other side of people who liked S3 and were disappointed with S4.

I liked season 3 and 4, but I prefered 3. I'm easily pleased