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Oil Specs for Skoda Superb 1.9 TDI (confused)

  • 13-11-2011 10:15am
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭


    Hi folks,

    Appreciate advice here. Have to top up the oil on my 2005 1.9tdi Skoda Superb. Checked the oil and it's at the very bottom of the groove. So I've got top the oil up (actually the first time I've had to do this in 5 years of car ownership!).

    Anyway, I spoke to Pilsen Auto and they were out of top up 1 litre bottles. They said the spec was a 0w-30 or 5w-30 oil.

    So I went into Halfords yesterday looking for a one litre top up bottle. The car's manual states that the oil must adhere to VW 505 01 or VW 505 00 specs.

    And the only oil I found there that had those specs on the bottle was Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 5W-40 Fully Synthetic. It adheres to VW 502 00, VW 505 00 and VW 505 01.

    So I got this one.

    Now, given this is the first time I'm gonna be doing this, I'm a bit nervous.

    Any advice/confirmation on whether this oil is ok?

    Cheers,
    Quad
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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,422 ✭✭✭Avns1s


    Have a look here http://www.castrol.com/castrol/iframe.do?categoryId=9024084&contentId=7044829

    Castrol Edge 5W-30 or Edge Turbo Diesel 5W-40


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    quad_red wrote: »
    ... Castrol Edge Turbo Diesel 5W-40 Fully Synthetic. ...
    Any advice/confirmation on whether this oil is ok? ...
    Perfect, but expensive, oil.

    Halfords do their own range of oils to various manufacturers specs, including the VW 505 01 spec for PD engines. These oils which are blended to Ford, BMW, Vauxhall, VW, etc. specs are cheaper than branded oils and seem capable of doing the job equally well. I'm not sure about availability of 1 litre bottles though.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭quad_red


    Thanks for all the replies lads.

    Checked the oil this morning and it was borderline at the end of the 'refill now' zone.

    That means it's lost a reasonable amount of oil over the last week. I don't see any leaks or oil patches in either of the spaces the car is parked for 95% of the time. It didn't appear to be burning oil either (no blue smoke etc.)

    Should I be worried? I'll keep an eye on the oil level.

    Put almost the full one litre into the engine and the dipstick is almost at the top of the ideal zone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14 electrizer_33


    how can i open a new thread. cant find the button


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,905 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey


    quad_red wrote: »
    That means it's lost a reasonable amount of oil over the last week. I don't see any leaks or oil patches in either of the spaces the car is parked for 95% of the time. It didn't appear to be burning oil either (no blue smoke etc.)

    Should I be worried? I'll keep an eye on the oil level.

    Put almost the full one litre into the engine and the dipstick is almost at the top of the ideal zone.
    You would want to keep a close eye on the level, running the level low can lead to all kinds of nasty things happening with turbos and things that depend on sufficient lubrication.
    You are probably burning a bit of oil, you won't necessarily see oil being burnt but it dissapears all the same.
    I'd buy a 4 litre pack and keep that handy for when you check the oil.
    If the car holds 3.6 litres a 1 litre top up is more than 25% of the oil in the engine, thats a pretty big amount of oil to be missing from the engine.
    Don't let it run that low too often!


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    CJhaughey wrote: »
    ... If the car holds 3.6 litres ...
    4.3 per oil change IIRC.

    OP do you always check oil-level with the engine cold and with the car flat ground?

    If so, oil certainly seems to be going somewhere. Keep an eye on the manifold gaskets, they have been known to leak and oil settles at the bottom of the intercooler /intercooler-piping.

    Any sign of oil / stains in the undertray?


  • Registered Users Posts: 23,199 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    quad_red wrote: »

    The car's manual states that the oil must adhere to VW 505 01 or
    VW 505 00 specs.

    505.01 is certainly correct. Are you sure the manual says 505.00 also?

    I would assume this is the PD engine you have. If so, vw are very definite in saying that 505.00 is no good.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    As already mentioned 505.01 is the spec, or the more widely available long life 507.00 spec is also suitable though it is even more expensive than the 505.01.

    I am pretty sure the owners manual states something like 505.00 is suitable for topping up in emergency situations only.

    How long is it since the oil was changed? Some of the PD engines tend to use oil, more so when the oil deteriorates. So keeping it changed regularly will help.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭quad_red


    mickdw wrote: »
    505.01 is certainly correct. Are you sure the manual says 505.00 also?

    I would assume this is the PD engine you have. If so, vw are very definite in saying that 505.00 is no good.

    You're freaking me out now!

    What's a PD engine? All I know is that's the 100bhp 1.9 tdi.

    The manual says for fixed service interval servicing (which I'm on given I'm gonna get it serviced every year or 10k)

    Multigrade high lubricity oils:
    diesel engines: VW 505 01, VW 505 00*
    *this does not apply for PDi engines (a unit injection engine).


    Does the Castrol oil I used not cover all the bases there?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭quad_red


    As already mentioned 505.01 is the spec, or the more widely available long life 507.00 spec is also suitable though it is even more expensive than the 505.01.

    I am pretty sure the owners manual states something like 505.00 is suitable for topping up in emergency situations only.

    How long is it since the oil was changed? Some of the PD engines tend to use oil, more so when the oil deteriorates. So keeping it changed regularly will help.

    Oil was changed when the car was serviced in May (full service with the timing belt and water pump done).

    It is worrying alright. There was no oil warning light though. Dimwitted I know but I just haven't really checked oil regularly before, always assuming I'd get a warning light if something was wrong. I looked this week cos of the NCT?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,561 ✭✭✭quad_red


    mathepac wrote: »
    4.3 per oil change IIRC.

    OP do you always check oil-level with the engine cold and with the car flat ground?

    If so, oil certainly seems to be going somewhere. Keep an eye on the manifold gaskets, they have been known to leak and oil settles at the bottom of the intercooler /intercooler-piping.

    Any sign of oil / stains in the undertray?

    No: definitely no oil stains in the two spaces it spends it's time parked in (outside house and work).

    No idea how to check the manifold gaskets. :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    The oil you used is fine.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Savker


    Hi all,
    Which oil do I use in the above car. Sick of all the different types.
    SK;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    Assuming the car is set for fixed service intervals, look for VW 505 01 on the tin, the brand, the viscosity and all other information is irrelevant


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Depends on whether it is on fixed or long life service intervals.

    Fixed you need VW 505.01 spec which is usually a 5w40 grade.

    Long life requires VW 507.00 spec which is 5w30 grade. You can also use this oil if in fixed interval service.

    The spec is the important part. If the correct spec isn't on the can don't use it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33 Savker


    Ta


  • Registered Users Posts: 176 ✭✭charlieharper


    Perfect Oil. Castrol is the best out there and has high spec.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭moodrater


    If its consuming oil, not smoking like crazy and nothing in the drive that says turbo seals to me oil leaking into the exhaust housing.

    With pd you absolutely *need* the correct oil or you'll have cam lobe wear and all wear particles swimming around elsewhere


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,400 ✭✭✭Nonoperational


    Just make sure your checking it in a consistent way. Usually I do it around 10 minutes after turning off the car. If you do it too soon it might read lower than it is.

    VW 507 oil can be got fairly reasonably now and as far as I know it's suitable for most.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Merch


    I know this is an old thread but its in the area of what I want to post anyway.

    Im a bit confused about what spec oil to use for a 1.9 Tdi Octavia, its an 01 car and I checked the engine code, its not a PD engine(I thought PD wasnt even around then but I found some info that says it was).
    But the manual still says 500 00, 505 00, 501 01 and for long life 506 00
    I plan to do the oil changes annually, not sure what oil/spec was used before or what interval was used either. Personally I dont like the idea of long life service intervals.

    I'd like to know

    Whats the most suitable VW spec to use
    and
    Where is the best place to get it in Dublin? and other service parts.

    Id prefer to go to a motor factors rather than halfords, but I find a lot of motor factors just want to throw you out what they have and arent particularily helpful, especially when Im just buying 4-5lts and a few other service items for myself, Im particular about using the right grade and spec oils, but if a non name brand oil can do the job as well, Im happy to go for non name branded oils (well known name brand oils).

    edit, Im assuming oils suited for use in a PD engine may be suitable to use in my non PD? and that I wouldnt have as many issues regarding variations in oil grade as a PD engine)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,728 ✭✭✭George Dalton


    Your engine isn't too fussy by modern standards. The spec for your engine is 505.00 which almost any 10W40 grade oil will meet.

    VW dealers sell their own brand Quantum oil at good prices. The one you want is the Quantum Synta 10W40.

    Failing that any motor factor should have the oil you want and the OEM filters. You could try some of the specialist parts guys like GSF or Otto if you are in doubt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,327 ✭✭✭Merch


    Your engine isn't too fussy by modern standards. The spec for your engine is 505.00 which almost any 10W40 grade oil will meet.

    VW dealers sell their own brand Quantum oil at good prices. The one you want is the Quantum Synta 10W40.

    Failing that any motor factor should have the oil you want and the OEM filters. You could try some of the specialist parts guys like GSF or Otto if you are in doubt.

    Thanks, I had thought there wouldnt be a problem until I read the page in the manual for what oil to use, then I got confused :)
    Is it just me or is it badly written in manuals for skoda (maybe VW too)? , it doesnt seem to make it very clear.

    Thanks again.


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