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"The Origin of Specious Nonsense"

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭fatmammycat


    Heard this advertised earlier, checked out site and pods, zero science on offer, even in the page samples. Nor is May (author) a scientist himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    From bowsing that site
    Reasons why I detest Evolution

    1: It teaches us to be satisfied with - not understanding origins.

    :D:D:D


    Conor Lenihan is going be at the launch of this garbage? Really?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,553 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    I really hope the part about the Minister turning up is bollocks.

    A publicity stunt on behalf of the publishers perhaps?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Dades wrote: »
    A publicity stunt on behalf of the publishers perhaps?

    You can also bet that that e10,000 won't be given out in a raffle. I imagine it'll be on offer to anyone who can prove evolution or something...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭fatmammycat


    maybe so, I would be surprised if he did make an appearance at this kind of bash.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    For a minute there I thought Conor Lenihan wrote it! Although launching it isn't much better.

    Where is Buswells hotel?


  • Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,195 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    "A Hoax" "A Joke"
    "A Fantasy" "An Impossibility"
    "A Fiction"
    "A Fairytale For Adults"
    "The greatest deceit in the history of science"

    Getting rave reviews

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,650 ✭✭✭sensibleken


    I went to a talk on the great o'neil which featured conor lenihan last week. he came accross as...a bit dim. so im not really suprised/


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭oceanclub


    Nope, he's launching it; I rang Lenihan's office and it was confirmed. When I asked did not having a Minister for Science launch an anti-science book give it credence, I was told that just because he was launching it did not mean he agreed with it, which obviously wasn't the question I asked.

    P.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,578 ✭✭✭✭Turtwig


    This is purely an attempt to try to get book publicity by sparking controversy. Ignore and stop discussing it.:)


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Malty_T wrote: »
    This is purely an attempt to try to get book publicity by sparking controversy. Ignore and stop discussing it.:)

    Discussing what?

    :pac:


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,553 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Malty_T wrote: »
    This is purely an attempt to try to get book publicity by sparking controversy. Ignore and stop discussing it.:)
    While that might be true, I think it's ridiculous that the minister is going.

    I'm going to let him know, too.

    http://www.deti.ie/corporate/ministersoffice/lenihan.htm


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭fatmammycat


    This is beyond ridiculous.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,517 ✭✭✭axer


    This sums up the stupidity of the author:
    127451.JPG


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    ''Charles Darwin & King Kong the Gorilla shall be present''.

    WTF?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,640 ✭✭✭Pushtrak


    axer wrote: »
    This sums up the stupidity of the author:
    Only thing that could make that worse would be if they'd used "Euro's."


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Damn tacky website crashed my browser. F#cking Creationist SCUM! :mad:

    It's beyond ridiculous that the minister for science is helping to launch this tripe. I'm sending him an email to express my concern (that says a lot since I normally don't bother).


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    axer wrote: »
    This sums up the stupidity of the author:
    127451.JPG

    Maybe he is raffling off ten thousand individual euro coins?


  • Registered Users Posts: 576 ✭✭✭pts


    Grrrrr.....
    Will be writing an angry email this evening. Is there any particular way a TD should be addressed?


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,611 ✭✭✭✭Sam Vimes


    pts wrote: »
    Grrrrr.....
    Will be writing an angry email this evening. Is there any particular way a TD should be addressed?

    "Thieving gombeen" I believe is the correct nomenclature


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,553 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    pts wrote: »
    Grrrrr.....
    Will be writing an angry email this evening. Is there any particular way a TD should be addressed?
    Just remember you pay his wages (the wages of sin...)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭fatmammycat


    In his book May uses 'the wonder of pregnancy to disprove the hoax of evolution'. Oh dear. Just...oh dear.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    Galvasean wrote: »
    Maybe he is raffling off ten thousand individual euro coins?

    €10,000 worth of euro coins? :P


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    I sent the minister an angry (but polite) email. I'll let you know if I get a reply.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 25,848 ✭✭✭✭Zombrex


    This book seems to be being self published

    http://originalwriting.ie/bookshop/non-fiction/bodymindspirit/the-origin-of-specious-nonsense/

    Seems like anyone with a twitter account can get a Minister to come to their "lauch party"

    What was that about coming to the opening of an envelope:P


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,215 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    Just e-mailed Matt Cooper, would be great if he picked up on this nonsense.


  • Registered Users Posts: 30,746 ✭✭✭✭Galvasean


    Email sent. Had to reign in on the bad language....
    I am writing to express my absolute dismay that you, our Minister for Science, are helping with the launch of the book 'The Origin Of Specious Nonsense'. This book is about as unscientific in approach as one could imagine. You would be wise to pick and chose what kind of literature you are seen to promote with greater care as this move is making you look like a laughing stock in the eyes of right thinking members of our society.

    Yours sincerely,

    Sean


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,314 ✭✭✭sink


    This is what I wrote.
    Dear Sir,

    I was horrified to discover that you will be attending a book launch of "The Origin of Specious Nonsense" by author John J. May. Although I have not yet read it I understand that this book attacks evolution, one the most well supported theories in the entire field of biology and underpins everything we know about the nature of life. It is so well supported by evidence in the fossil record and DNA that it is considered a fact as much as gravity is considered fact.

    Now if John J. May discovered some evidence that disproved evolution, such as a species which does not fit in the phylogeny of the tree of life and so falsifies it, he should publish his research in a scientific journal and there would be no doubt that he would win a Nobel prize and become a world renowned figure.

    I have my doubts as to the credibility of his claims and his motivations. Evolution has been under attack since it's inception by religious dogmatists who are anti-scientific in outlook. Motivated not by a quest for truth through following the empirical evidence as uncovered by the scientific method, but rather a quest to uphold their superstitions and religious nonsense above that of science. Their modus operandi is to deny the evidence, muddle the facts and discredit true science and scientists in the public media.

    Sir as the minister for science, you represent the government in all matters pertaining to science and to be associated with such anti-scientific tripe, discredits you, discredits this government and discredits the people of this country who elected you. I genuinely hope you reconsider attending this book launch.

    Yours Sincerely,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    I'm really confused and don't want to ask the obvious question for fear of ruining the thread. :pac:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,764 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Emailed the minister there - this is appallingly stupid on his part.


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