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Would you go to this Gentleman's Club?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Dostoevsky wrote: »
    Irish literature, of course. Oh to be "cool" and fit in by only have commercially popular interests...

    I could the prospect of breaking from the norm terrifying most men.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Relatively speaking ;) Dutch Gold vs some artisan expensive Belgian beer!

    God forbid a man enjoy beer for the taste and not trying to drink their body weight in it


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Dostoevsky


    I don't like the idea of a "gentlemen's club" and this one sounds like a particularly anglocentric one which doesn't give me hope in its openness to other cultures, including Irish culture. I'm not looking for a Kildare Street Club. I doubt many other educated Irish people men will be either.

    On the other hand, I really like the idea of clubs where people discuss ideas, books, philosophy and life in general. These are the sort of people I seek out in life and at social events. I love learning new things. I love reading and I find that when thoughts or ideas are verbalised they become more lucid and developed in my mind.

    I can't abide commercial soccer, noisy pubs and anything which takes away from a great conversation. Rightly or wrongly I usually define great conversation by how much I learn from it, by how it enriches my life. Some of the most enriching conversations I've ever had were with well-read women, particularly conversations on language and literature, so I don't see the rational reason for creating a club like this around a "men only" policy.

    Something like this club, but not like it at the same time, would be a great alternative to the sheer boredom of commercially-driven programming saturating television which as a fashion is years beyond its sell-by date.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Dostoevsky wrote: »
    On the other hand, I really like the idea of clubs where people discuss ideas, books, philosophy and life in general. These are the sort of people I seek out in life and at social events. I love learning new things. I love reading and I find that when thoughts or ideas are verbalised they become more lucid and developed in my mind.

    I can't abide commercial soccer, noisy pubs and anything which takes away from a great conversation. Rightly or wrongly I usually define great conversation by how much I learn from it, by how it enriches my life. Some of the most enriching conversations I've ever had were with well-read women, particularly conversations on language and literature, so I don't see the rational reason for creating a club like this around a "men only" policy.

    Something like this club, but not like it at the same time, would be a great alternative to the sheer boredom of commercially-driven programming saturating television which as a fashion is years beyond its sell-by date.

    My thoughts exactly


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,023 ✭✭✭Dostoevsky


    God forbid a man enjoy beer for the taste and not trying to drink their body weight in it

    This! And any club I would join would have to serve beer, not just wine. Preferably beer from a good micro brewery. Alas, this is the crime of wanting difference, of wanting something fresh and new, it seems.


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 8,490 Mod ✭✭✭✭Fluorescence


    God forbid a man enjoy beer for the taste and not trying to drink their body weight in it

    Which is why I said that Ireland having a social scene comprised almost entirely of get rat-faced on cheap beer is a problem, and that this gentleman's club is offering an alternative.

    :rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Which is why I said that Ireland having a social scene comprised almost entirely of get rat-faced on cheap beer is a problem, and that this gentleman's club is offering an alternative.

    :rolleyes:

    :o:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Too late boyos, I'm already in one. Location varies but it usually goes under the name 'a lads night'.:pac:

    The gimpy clothing brigade would put me off, (really getting the picture of lads with large quiffs, dressed head to toe in pastel colours and a sweater tied around their necks called Quentin and the likes) but the idea of a social club for haning out, having a few drinks and learning something new etc is actually quite appealling.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,631 ✭✭✭✭OldGoat


    prinz wrote: »
    Too late boyos, I'm already in one. Location varies but it usually goes under the name 'a lads night'.:pac:

    The gimpy clothing brigade would put me off, (really getting the picture of lads with large quiffs, dressed head to toe in pastel colours and a sweater tied around their necks called Quentin and the likes) but the idea of a social club for haning out, having a few drinks and learning something new etc is actually quite appealling.

    There seems to be a lot of judging the merits of the club simply by the clothing choice of some of the members (or at least the jurnos depiction of).
    Mind boggles at that.
    Would people really turn down the chance to learn where the best Martini in the country is, or how to tie a gadfly, or how to shoot things in a field simply because someone else is wearing a football shirt? Or a pair of steel toecaped boots? Or the wrong label jeans? No because that would be ridiculous.
    Like Prinz says, get past the clothing image and focus on what the club offers, something out of the ordinary.

    I'm older than Minecraft goats.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    I don't think anybody disagrees with the idea of a group of lads getting together to take part in something that can be informative, educational and fun.

    But it's the sheer pretentiousness and use of wording used by these two gimps that would put me off this. Or perhaps it's the journalists wording of things.

    If a whiskey specialist was to give an evening whereby he gave an informative talk on the history and different types of whiskeys along with sampling then I'd be all in. However if it was in the company of the hipsters described in the article I'd give it a miss.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    If you wanted to join a club where you learn new stuff and it's not about getting locked then try this http://www.menssheds.ie/


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    They really shouldn't have included the word "fabulous" in their article about "gentleman's club"


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Why no girls allowed?

    Girls are great, generally, especially if you're on a night out and trying to have some fun.

    Having a club where people do other things other than simply getting drunk? Fine, even if some of the activities wouldn't appeal to me.

    Having a club where people do other things other than simply getting drunk, but it's just men sitting round talking about being men and how hard it is to be a man now and things men like and what they think men should be like and also, men, sounds a bit boring and a little immature.

    They should call it "The Boys' Fort!"


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Why no girls allowed?
    Girls are great, generally, especially if you're on a night out and trying to have some fun.

    Presumably because it would quickly descend into who's trying to get who into bed and drama. You can have great fun in mixed company, and you can have fun with the lads, but there is a different atmosphere. As I said before, sometimes there's nothing like a lads night.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    prinz wrote: »
    Presumably because it would quickly descend into who's trying to get who into bed and drama. You can have great fun in mixed company, and you can have fun with the lads, but there is a different atmosphere. As I said before, sometimes there's nothing like a lads night.

    A lads' night can be grand occasionally, but I much prefer that kind of carry on overall. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    A lads' night can be grand occasionally, but I much prefer that kind of carry on overall. :)

    Some of us have a ball and chain so that kind of carryon doesn't fly so well :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,041 ✭✭✭Seachmall


    prinz wrote: »
    Some of us have a ball and chain so that kind of carryon doesn't fly so well :(

    That's why God made ditches. And lime. And alibis.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,598 ✭✭✭✭prinz


    Seachmall wrote: »
    That's why God made ditches. And lime. And alibis.

    I don't know if my mrs would give me an alibi and if I could fit my friends in one ditch :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,075 ✭✭✭Wattle


    Sounds like a club for gaylords to me. Sure don't you have the Tuesday and Wednesday nights down the pub with the lads and the scoops flyin and the slagging goin on and tearing your hair out cos Lionel Messi is destroying your favourite team and after in the chipper you've got donor kebab juice all down your shirt and in your ears and then you stagger home and fall asleep on the couch and wake up with a pounding head hours late for work only to find that you've pissed your pants in the middle of the night.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 730 ✭✭✭gosuckonalemon


    Wattle wrote: »
    Sounds like a club for gaylords to me. Sure don't you have the Tuesday and Wednesday nights down the pub with the lads and the scoops flyin and the slagging goin on and tearing your hair out cos Lionel Messi is destroying your favourite team and after in the chipper you've got donor kebab juice all down your shirt and in your ears and then you stagger home and fall asleep on the couch and wake up with a pounding head hours late for work only to find that you've pissed your pants in the middle of the night.

    HERO!


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    They should call it "The Boys' Fort!"

    Nothing stopping someone setting up "The Girls' Fort!"


  • Registered Users Posts: 49 GabbyJay


    These guys have been watching too much Sherlock Holmes, they've gone the wrong way about it altogether. Devoted to "style, manhood and merriment" and, by the sounds of it, style really does come first to them.

    These guys want to know their cheeses, their wines, their cigars. No doubt they will talk about the best brands of watches, and different types of hats. These are all interesting topics, I would not consider it pretentious to try to gain a broader understanding of these things. The problem is when these pursuits are simply a means to an end where "style" is the underlying goal.

    Perhaps it is a badly researched article, but every quote leads me to interpret that the taste of delicious cheese, the genuine appreciation of a fine wine, the thrill of a salmon on a fly line, etc., are of secondary importance. What really matters is achieving a greater sense of of superiority over their colleagues who drink Heineken and don't know how to wear cufflinks.

    To call this a "pursuit of manliness" is a giveaway in itself. In my opinion, trying to "pursue" manliness would be its own undoing. Real manliness is indulging in your own interests and not feeling the need to shape yourself into what other people think is sophisticated. People have more respect for "a man who is his own man"; nobody respects you because of your taste in cigars or your knowledge of cheese.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    From reading the article I assume the real name of it is The Homosexual Gentleman's Club.


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,207 ✭✭✭The King of Moo


    Nothing stopping someone setting up "The Girls' Fort!"

    More power to them!

    I just think it'd be a bit boring if we spent all our time in them.

    We'd need someone to also set up "Behind the bike shed."

    Oh wait, that's Copper's!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭adam88


    chin_grin wrote: »
    BUNCHA QUAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRSSSSS.

    How grown up of you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,334 ✭✭✭RichieC


    I'm always mystified as to why men used to always want to hang out in women free environments..


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,933 ✭✭✭Logical Fallacy


    RichieC wrote: »
    I'm always mystified as to why men used to always want to hang out in women free environments..

    Exactly, even gay lads have a hag ffs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    Wattle wrote: »
    Sounds like a club for gaylords to me. Sure don't you have the Tuesday and Wednesday nights down the pub with the lads and the scoops flyin and the slagging goin on and tearing your hair out cos Lionel Messi is destroying your favourite team and after in the chipper you've got donor kebab juice all down your shirt and in your ears and then you stagger home and fall asleep on the couch and wake up with a pounding head hours late for work only to find that you've pissed your pants in the middle of the night.

    Its true, you don't. But a lot of guys do that exact thing.
    Imagine being stuck in a circle of friends who equate doing this every wednesday night or weekend with having a good time.
    Peel away the pretentiousness and snobbery associated with these clubs and what you could have is a group who concentrate on self-betterment and the 'pursuit of manliness' as one poster just said.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,736 ✭✭✭ch750536


    Been to a 'Gentlemans Evening' in a private club. If that is anything to go by then the place is staffed by topless girls who really like each other a lot.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭JohnMarston


    adam88 wrote: »
    How grown up of you.

    Wexford called, they want their accent back


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