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DIY e-liquid advice needed

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  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    I ordered some of the perfume apprentice flavour, anyone know what % I should use when it arrives?

    http://www.perfumersapprentice.com/perfumersworkshop/perfumery_education/curtis_blending.html
    This page might help you:)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    im pretty sure it was perfumers apprentice i saw someone talking about elsewhere, but they mentioned they do up a mix first with a pg base
    like 10ml pg, 1 ml flavouring
    then they shake that good and hard

    then they use that mixture to make their proper juices so 5-10% of that mix instead of the straight flavouring. it's meant to be incredibly concentrated stuff, all I know is I tried some dk-tobacco from them at 10% and it came out rank so maybe that was why


  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    Looks like the ecigshop are going to be supplying diy flavour concentrates just spotted this on Facebook, they are doing a poll for favourite flavours. http://www.facebook.com/eCigShop.eu/app_20678178440
    They also said they are introducing new DIY section soon, hopefully they might sell PG and VG at a good price, it would be handy to be able to get it here in Ireland instead of waiting a week


  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    I sent them a message on facebook asking if they would be supplying PG base and they just got back to me to confirm they would, Yipee...
    Gonna hold off on my Inawera order now and hopefully they will be reasonably priced.


  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    Has anyone been making any e-liquids or come across any interesting flavours recently? I'm thinking of getting in an order somewhere next week to experiment with some new flavours.


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    I'd spotted earlier in the week that e-cigshop are doing flavours already, more expensive than inawera at €2.95 vs €1.65 for 10ml. But it's it would be great for smaller orders, and I'd be happy enough to pay a bit extra for somewhere local. Hopefully if they prove popular the prices can come down too. Great to here they'll be doing bases too. I've found bottles of VG in Boots, but it was either €3.99 or €4.99 for 150ml compared to €1.68 for 100ml at inawera, so pricey enough.


  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    stevenmu wrote: »
    I'd spotted earlier in the week that e-cigshop are doing flavours already, more expensive than inawera at €2.95 vs €1.65 for 10ml. But it's it would be great for smaller orders, and I'd be happy enough to pay a bit extra for somewhere local. Hopefully if they prove popular the prices can come down too. Great to here they'll be doing bases too. I've found bottles of VG in Boots, but it was either €3.99 or €4.99 for 150ml compared to €1.68 for 100ml at inawera, so pricey enough.

    I picked up a bottle of that vg in boots alright just as a spare in case im stuck. Im hoping ecigshop have the pg nic base soon because im all out and didnt order from inawera. Id like to get my hands on a good rye4 or similar concentrate.


  • Registered Users Posts: 844 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    How much nic base would people require in a single order 250ml or more?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i think most people tend to order 100ml of nic base and then some 0nig pg/vg to dilute


  • Registered Users Posts: 844 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    What would you guys be happy to pay for 100ml each, I think it would be 50mg base? €20 for 125ml??, this would be absolutely pristine non chinese pharma grade at 50mg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 844 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    I wasnt planning to offer this quite yet but if you guys really want to see it I can get it up on the shop in about ten days and can set up pre orders over the weekend. The shop is there for you guys so let me know and we'll do it:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,969 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    stevenmu wrote: »
    I've found bottles of VG in Boots, but it was either €3.99 or €4.99 for 150ml compared to €1.68 for 100ml at inawera, so pricey enough.
    I know its up the road, but Boots in Newry have 200ml VG for 99p....
    wingnut32 wrote: »
    How much nic base would people require in a single order 250ml or more?
    Market research? How much of a discount will we get? :D

    Not your ornery onager



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    That's good to know, not worth a trip just for that but I'll keep it mind if im in the area.


  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    wingnut32 wrote: »
    What would you guys be happy to pay for 100ml each, I think it would be 50mg base? €20 for 125ml??, this would be absolutely pristine non chinese pharma grade at 50mg

    €20 for 125ml of 50mg base sounds good to me:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭derra


    Would be interested in the base alright but definitely would also need the PG and VG dilutant to be available as well.
    It would take a fair bit of the dilutant if mixing say 12mg @ 70/30 with a 50mg base.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    20 for 125ml 50mg sounds pretty good alright


  • Registered Users Posts: 844 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    €16 for 100ml. This is up on the site now and can be paid for, should be delivered to customers no later than 16/5/12.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    any plans for 0mg pg/vg bases?

    ill order some of the 50mg anyway just to have it, it works out cheaper than inawera


  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 3,709 Mod ✭✭✭✭eeloe


    I'm liking the sound of this!!! :-)

    Really need to work on getting a DIY all day vape going, and using the store bought stuff occasionally!


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    healthcabin have a sale on atm so will probably order a metric ****ton of 5-10ml bottles

    even with the sale on from my hasty calculations ordering the 50mg from e-smoke works out cheaper than buying from them or inawera and it's from an irish supplier so pretty great deal


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  • Registered Users Posts: 844 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    any plans for 0mg pg/vg bases?

    ill order some of the 50mg anyway just to have it, it works out cheaper than inawera

    Im just going to go with PG Digby, the VG can be gotten at a great price in a few places http://mistralni.co.uk/catalogue/product/14. Flavours are gonna take about 6 weeks or so but it will be worth the wait.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭alec76


    wingnut32 wrote: »
    this would be absolutely pristine non chinese pharma grade at 50mg

    :rolleyes:
    i thought there is only one source for non chinese nicotine - It is German MERCK , what u call "synthetic" nicotine. Too cheap to be true though ....
    38mg 100 ml base last me for 12 months . ( diluted to 6 mg) . it is 13 euro from inawera if i am not mistaken . 50 mg kinda pointless for my needs -- i better get fresh 100 ml 38 every year , rather than using 50mg 100 ml for year and a half


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i was reading on ukvapers that TW used irish sourced nicotine, so there's definitely more than german stuff


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭alec76


    i was reading on ukvapers that TW used irish sourced nicotine
    Merck Ireland ?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com/products/platinum-titanum-ice-products.html
    The nicotine comes from Ireland, the mixing and bottling takes place in the Totally Wicked HQ in Blackburn, under controlled conditions in our purpose built clean room, using a specialist team headed by our in-house Production Chemist, Dr Bilal Patel PhD.

    *shrug*


  • Registered Users Posts: 844 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    There are a few american "farms" where the nicotine is extracted also!


  • Registered Users Posts: 984 ✭✭✭newmark


    wingnut32 wrote: »
    Im just going to go with PG Digby, the VG can be gotten at a great price in a few places http://mistralni.co.uk/catalogue/product/14. Flavours are gonna take about 6 weeks or so but it will be worth the wait.

    There is a warning on that link that that stuff is not safe for food or e-cigarette use! If anyone is buying this stuff from anywhere make sure it is food grade and suitable.


  • Registered Users Posts: 844 ✭✭✭wingnut32


    newmark wrote: »
    There is a warning on that link that that stuff is not safe for food or e-cigarette use! If anyone is buying this stuff from anywhere make sure it is food grade and suitable.

    Ooops didnt see that on that page, plenty of other places to get the vg cheap!


  • Registered Users Posts: 21,969 ✭✭✭✭Esel


    wingnut32 wrote: »
    Ooops didnt see that on that page, plenty of other places to get the vg cheap!
    As I said, Boots in Newry (presume other branches in the north as well) 99p for 200ml VG (BP grade).

    It's very thick, so I dilute it with water in the ratio 1:9 (1 part water to 9 parts VG).

    Not your ornery onager



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    I'm vaping a lemon/menthol mix at the moment and it's absolutely amazing. I made up a plain lemon mix first, and it was ok, but nothing special, so I added more lemon flavour and a bit of menthol and that really brought it to life. It's actually a bit like those hard lemon sweets with the sherbet inside. From now on I'm adding menthol to everything :)


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