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Boston Marathon - new registration procedures
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Registration for the BAA 5k which is one the day before the marathon opens today at 3pm Irish time. Runs along part of the marathon course and finishes on the marathon finish line. Might be of interest for anyone travelling with a partner who also runs.
More detail here.
Signed up the OH, she was quite happy until I told her the race started at 8am
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Registration for the BAA 5k which is one the day before the marathon opens today at 3pm Irish time. Runs along part of the marathon course and finishes on the marathon finish line. Might be of interest for anyone travelling with a partner who also runs.
More detail here.
Signed up the OH, she was quite happy until I told her the race started at 8am
Jet lag will have her up early anyway!0 -
KentuckyPete wrote: »Meanwhile, away from the jackets, am still obsessing about the course profile
I printed off the profile pieces from the BAA website, pasted them together and hung them on the wall. The longer horizontal definitely helps!
I reckon the planning at this stage is
Mile 1 to 5 - Serious downhill. Target marathon pace minus 15 secs
Mile 5 to 15 - Ups and downs but generally a "normal" profile. Target marathon pace
Mile 15 to 21 - Serious descent followed by the four Newton hills. Target marathon pace plus 13 secs
Mile 21 to 26 - Steady downhill. Target marathon pace
The big danger is losing everything in that first five miles. Still, even if I don't make these times I'll probably still use those course divisions. Something tells me this ain't gonna be my last post on this
TFBubendorfer wrote: »Speaking from personal experience, I think this is too fast.
This is something I stressed about as well but our good friends at Nike helped me out in 2007. I was suposed to post this a while back.
In the expo they were giving out pace bands that take course profile into consideration. I was targeting 2.50 which is 6.29 pace. As you can see from the pace band the first 4 miles are fast so with even running/effort (i.e 6.29 effort) I was expected to run 6.16, 6.24, 6.22 & 6.17. Mile 21 is a toughie so pace drops out to 6.52. These pace bands were free and you could get one tailored for your time. Have never seen them in other marathons but would definitely scout around expo looking for them if you can.0 -
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KentuckyPete wrote: »Wow, that's a detailed pace-band for sure. Did you keep to the times RR? Did you find that putting the same effort in each for each mile gave you the outcome you needed?
Great to get this though - while it's a bit better adjusted than my suggestion above it trends roughly the same way.
Yeah kept the pace for the majority of miles. Was reassuring to know that when you run a slow mile it may be expected. I think my mile 21 was even slower than 6.51.
By the way the jackets rock lads. What ever about getting it beforehand don't wear it until you've ran the marathon. The auld lads will rip the piss out of you, I'm talking from experience
I was in a bar getting some food on the Saturday and the majority of patrons had their jackets on. Some dating back to the late 1980s. They were like a badge of honour.
One other thing, if you are hanging on for a day or two they sell off unsold expo gear in some downtown sports shops. A friend of mine has gone twice so I'll find out the name of the shops.0 -
So... I used RR's paceband to build a similar one for 2:59:59 pace by multiplying each mile time by the ratio of 2:59:59 to 2:50:00.
Target pace for 2:59:59 is 6:52. On the pace band, blue miles are run faster than target pace, orange miles are slower and green miles are bang on. Third column shows the cumulative times if running at a steady 6;52.
A race between two lads running these splits would be a TV spectacular.
"Uneven Runner races off and leaves 6:52 Runner in the dust. Uneven Runner never quite gets clear though - 6:52 vitally maintains visual contact and almost catches him on a number of occasions before finally moving ahead in mile 20. Heartbreak Hill looks decisive as 6:52 steams on, widening the gap with every stride. Uneven Runner isn't finished yet though - he's trained hard and done extensive calculations ahead of the big day - he fairly flies down the other side of Heartbreak Hill and closes the gap steadily - almost drawing level at mile 25. However, 6:52 grits his teeth and just stays in front through mile 26. Then in an unfortunate Excel rounding error 6:52 gains two seconds on the run-in and breasts the tape ahead of a tired but gallant Uneven Runner."
I reckon this pace band (minus the third column) would be a good aid on the day - as RR says, it lets you know where the bad miles are and also gives you a good idea of your target cumulative time along the way. Interestingly halfway is also scheduled for around 1:29:34 - no major shift from a "flat" race target split 0 -
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KentuckyPete wrote: »So... I used RR's paceband to build a similar one for 2:59:59 pace by multiplying each mile time by the ratio of 2:59:59 to 2:50:00.
Target pace for 2:59:59 is 6:52. On the pace band, blue miles are run faster than target pace, orange miles are slower and green miles are bang on. Third column shows the cumulative times if running at a steady 6;52.
A race between two lads running these splits would be a TV spectacular.
"Uneven Runner races off and leaves 6:52 Runner in the dust. Uneven Runner never quite gets clear though - 6:52 vitally maintains visual contact and almost catches him on a number of occasions before finally moving ahead in mile 20. Heartbreak Hill looks decisive as 6:52 steams on, widening the gap with every stride. Uneven Runner isn't finished yet though - he's trained hard and done extensive calculations ahead of the big day - he fairly flies down the other side of Heartbreak Hill and closes the gap steadily - almost drawing level at mile 25. However, 6:52 grits his teeth and just stays in front through mile 26. Then in an unfortunate Excel rounding error 6:52 gains two seconds on the run-in and breasts the tape ahead of a tired but gallant Uneven Runner."
I reckon this pace band (minus the third column) would be a good aid on the day - as RR says, it lets you know where the bad miles are and also gives you a good idea of your target cumulative time along the way. Interestingly halfway is also scheduled for around 1:29:34 - no major shift from a "flat" race target split
Good to see you're not taking this Boston malarkey too seriously Pete. Nice and chilled - just give it your best, see how it goes like.0 -
Would you not aim for a more aggressive time like 2:58 and train for it too? Too many people (myself and Peckham included) have run 3:00:xx in a race. It's so difficult to get it spot on, when the margins are so tight.KentuckyPete wrote: »I reckon this pace band (minus the third column) would be a good aid on the day - as RR says, it lets you know where the bad miles are and also gives you a good idea of your target cumulative time along the way. Interestingly halfway is also scheduled for around 1:29:34 - no major shift from a "flat" race target split0 -
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From http://www.marathonguide.com/fitnesscalcs/PaceBandCreator.cfm
To make the wristband stronger (and waterproof), cover the band lengthwise with strips of clear tape: front, back and side edges.
Trim tape with scissors.
In case any of ye are prone to sweating a little during a marathon.
I have seen pacing charts at other expos but nothign as fancy (or useful as the wristband) The Two Oceans pacing chart takes the hills into account.
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Krusty_Clown wrote: »Perhaps I fancy a beer?
They'll be loads of Boston College students having bbq's on Comm Ave who would be happy to accomodate that request Krusty !
I always used to love running over the newton hills as the frat boys were shouting at you that 'you can do it', with a beer in one hand and a hot dog in the other. The fumes coming off some of them was enough to get you tipsy 0 -
That's good to know. Should we get a strong head-wind, I'll make myself cosy outside one of the frat houses, and she can come pick me up.They'll be loads of Boston College students having bbq's on Comm Ave who would be happy to accomodate that request Krusty !
I always used to love running over the newton hills as the frat boys were shouting at you that 'you can do it', with a beer in one hand and a hot dog in the other. The fumes coming off some of them was enough to get you tipsy0 -
I always used to love running over the newton hills as the frat boys were shouting at you that 'you can do it', with a beer in one hand and a hot dog in the other. The fumes coming off some of them was enough to get you tipsy
Yes, from what I remember Boston College was just as loud as the Wellesley scream tunnel, but the B.C. screamers were significantly less good looking! :rolleyes:0 -
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I'm all right thanks Peckham - am slumming it at the "W" (god bless those Starwood points from work)
How's preparation going? I'm laid up this two weeks with a calf problem - some dose. Am biking and swimming but it's not any sort of substitute0 -
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