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Diagnostic socket location

  • 20-02-2010 7:39pm
    #1
    TURRICAN
    Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭


    Howdy.
    Can anyone tell where the socket is on a honda torneo/accord.the year is 1999.im guessing it should be obd2 compliant.
    have searched everywhere but cant find it.
    thanks in advance.


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  • #2
    Atlantic Dawn
    Registered Users Posts: 81,015 ✭✭✭✭Atlantic Dawn
    M


    Did you look under the steering wheel?


  • #3
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,379 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    try under the glovebox. that's where it is on the Accords anyway. Some are behind the ashtray too.


  • #4
    TURRICAN
    Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TURRICAN


    thanks ladds ive looked in those positions and dont see it.is there a cover on it.or do i have to remove panels to get it.


  • #5
    colm_mcm
    Registered Users Posts: 73,379 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    maybe try removing the glovebox. Think you just squeeze both sides together and it falls down, then unhinge it.


  • #6
    Masada
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭Masada


    vague memories of it but i think its to the left of the clutch pedal under the dash.


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  • #7
    Hal1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    6034073


  • #8
    mickdw
    Registered Users Posts: 23,249 ✭✭✭✭mickdw


    Some models didnt have the standard connector in 99 I think.


  • #9
    Muckie
    Registered Users Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭Muckie


    Have you looked underneath the fuse box inside the car, that'd be
    my guess.


  • #10
    500sel
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭500sel


    lift the carpet on passenger side front there is a 3 or 5 pin plug. thats the dlc


  • #11
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    That car isn't OBD-II, and may not even be OBD-I.

    Look out for the 3-pin DLC 500sel mentions. You can bridge the pins in this if you have an illuminated CEL and the ECU will flash the code on the CEL.

    There will also be a bigger connector somewhere near the ECU, but it's proprietary.


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  • #12
    Xpro
    Registered Users Posts: 896 ✭✭✭Xpro


    passenger fotwell, and its not an obd compatible


  • #13
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,680 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    If the car is OBD2 compliant (most cars since the mid 90s are) it should be very close to the steering wheel.

    If it isn't OBD2 compliant (as JHMEG suggests it isn't - I guess Japanese cars were probably a bit behind US or Euro cars) than I have no idea where it is :)


  • #14
    Fishtits
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,382 ✭✭✭Fishtits


    Hijack.

    07 Transit, anyone know where the OBDII socket is?


  • #15
    Hal1
    Registered Users Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    6034073


  • #16
    Midnight_EG
    Registered Users Posts: 9,694 ✭✭✭Midnight_EG


    Fishtits wrote: »
    Hijack.

    07 Transit, anyone know where the OBDII socket is?
    Under the steering wheel/steering rack/column.


  • #17
    500sel
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭500sel


    Fishtits wrote: »
    Hijack.

    07 Transit, anyone know where the OBDII socket is?
    Removable panel under steering wheel, whip it off and hey presto;)


  • #18
    biko
    Registered Users Posts: 81,223 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Hal1 wrote: »
    B]IMG[/Bhttps://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/[/IMG]
    Hal1 wrote: »
    B]IMG[/Bhttps://us.v-cdn.net/6034073/[/IMG]

    Don't use image tags to link ;)


  • #19
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    unkel wrote: »
    I guess Japanese cars were probably a bit behind US or Euro cars
    1996 OBD-II became law in the US
    2000 JOBD became law in Japan
    2001 EOBD becomes law for petrols in Europe
    2003 EOBD becomes law for diesels in Europe

    EOBD and JOBD are very similar to OBD-II.

    The US is always first when it comes to environmental performance (which is the purpose of OBD) and the Europeans are always last...


  • #20
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,680 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    I guess there must be a big difference between when most European cars got OBD2 and when it became the law :)


  • #21
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    unkel wrote: »
    I guess there must be a big difference between when most European cars got OBD2 and when it became the law :)

    I sincerely doubt that. They don't even put electric windows in the back when they can avoid it.


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  • #22
    TURRICAN
    Closed Accounts Posts: 717 ✭✭✭TURRICAN


    500sel wrote: »
    lift the carpet on passenger side front there is a 3 or 5 pin plug. thats the dlc

    Bingo.cheers man thats it.

    @ those who said its not obd compliant, it is!

    thanks for all replies.


  • #23
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,680 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    JHMEG wrote: »
    I sincerely doubt that. They don't even put electric windows in the back when they can avoid it.

    Dunno. Not a lot of experience with OBD, but both my '94 530 and my '96 735 were OBD2.


  • #24
    500sel
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭500sel


    unkel wrote: »
    Dunno. Not a lot of experience with OBD, but both my '94 530 and my '96 735 were OBD2.

    you will find not all modes of eobd are suported
    the 16 pin DLC was fitted to many vehicles before they supported the protocols this was to reduce costs at a later date .
    both your cars would have had a round socket under the bonnet,some had also a 16 pin DLC aswell but that was from 99-01


  • #25
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    unkel wrote: »
    Dunno. Not a lot of experience with OBD, but both my '94 530 and my '96 735 were OBD2.

    The main problem I have with that is that your 94 in particular could not have conformed to a standard that didn't exist, anywhere.


  • #26
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,680 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    JHMEG wrote: »
    The main problem I have with that is that your 94 in particular could not have conformed to a standard that didn't exist, anywhere.

    LOL, you have me doubting now. Maybe the 530 didn't have it. So when did it become a standard - surely it must have been a standard quite some time before it became the law in the US in '96 as you stated?


  • #27
    zilog_jones
    Registered Users Posts: 6,641 ✭✭✭zilog_jones


    The OBD-II standard was around before 1996 (possibly not completely finalized), it just was not a requirement:
    http://www.obdii.com/background.html#Have

    Ford cars with EEC-V ECUs should all have OBD-II ports, e.g. Mk. 4 Fiesta ('95 on), Ka, Puma, Scorpio (the ugly one), etc. I've seen mentions that these are all fully OBD-II compliant. Don't know about the Escort or Mondeo (I know they both had EEC-IV at some stage which uses some proprietary yoke).

    Possibly typical of pre-1996 OBD-II: In the Fiesta Mk. 4 the socket is in the passenger footwell. I guess on LHD versions it would be compliant with the 2 feet from the steering wheel thing, but they didn't care about us :)


  • #28
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    unkel wrote: »
    LOL, you have me doubting now. Maybe the 530 didn't have it. So when did it become a standard - surely it must have been a standard quite some time before it became the law in the US in '96 as you stated?

    Not sure when it was finalised, but in 1996 OBD-II, a US standard, was mandated in the US. Your's was a Euro car sold in Europe.

    I used to have a 1997 US-built Honda, sold in Europe, and it most defintely was not OBD-II or EOBD.


  • #29
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    zilog_jones wrote: »
    The OBD-II standard was around before 1996 (possibly not completely finalized), it just was not a requirement:
    http://www.obdii.com/background.html#Have

    Ford cars with EEC-V ECUs should all have OBD-II ports, e.g. Mk. 4 Fiesta ('95 on), Ka, Puma, Scorpio (the ugly one), etc. I've seen mentions that these are all fully OBD-II compliant. Don't know about the Escort or Mondeo (I know they both had EEC-IV at some stage which uses some proprietary yoke).

    Possibly typical of pre-1996 OBD-II: In the Fiesta Mk. 4 the socket is in the passenger footwell. I guess on LHD versions it would be compliant with the 2 feet from the steering wheel thing, but they didn't care about us :)

    It has to be noted that these would be USDM versions. Also, no BMWs on the list.


  • #30
    unkel
    Registered Users Posts: 64,680 ✭✭✭✭unkel


    JHMEG wrote: »
    Not sure when it was finalised, but in 1996 OBD-II, a US standard, was mandated in the US. Your's was a Euro car sold in Europe.

    My E34 530 was sold in the US too (from 1993 until 1996, same as in Europe). I'm not aware of any differences between US and Euro spec. Hell did the M60 engine in that car not start the massive BMW Nikasil issue? :D


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  • #31
    JHMEG
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,686 ✭✭✭JHMEG


    unkel wrote: »
    My E34 530 was sold in the US too (from 1993 until 1996, same as in Europe). I'm not aware of any differences between US and Euro spec. Hell did the M60 engine in that car not start the massive BMW Nikasil issue? :D
    There would have been a lot of regulatory differences, so there would have been a lot of differences in Euro and US version. Areas like
    a) Headlight beam pattern and general exterior lighting and signalling (running lights reqd in some states)
    b) Wiring and switching as a result of the above
    c) Emissions regs (including OBD-II in 1996)
    d) Impact regs (bumpers on cars in the US must survive low speed impacts)
    e) Speedos in mph in the US, km/h in LHD Europe.
    f) Anti-theft regs are different

    ... and probably more. I'm no expert.

    As I said my US-built Honda was not OBD-II as it was sold in Europe, but the same version sold in the US was OBD-II by law. The ECUs in US and Euro market versions always have different part numbers too, even in my current car which is sold in both markets. And typically the US version is about a quarter the price!


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