Intelligence agencies debunk the media hysteria on Iran

Siuin wrote: »

It doesn't look good

I'd say it's great, a good shooting war is just what we want, fuel at €100 a litre and riots and anarchy everywhere.

They always cause depressions and bubbles to burst and plunge people in desperation prior to war. We've been preparing for war for several years already.

plasmaguy wrote: »

While most nuclear armed states have done well to stop proliferation, it's hard to see Iran doing the same, since if it was a direct fight, they would lose any nuclear conflict.

Nuclear armed states , all of them , are a threat to our very existance and nuclear weapons a freak of science I dont think there is anything well about them or who has them. All nuclear weapons should be disbanded and put beyond use the onus is on the nations who have them to start the process and this in turn will discourage other nations from seeking them. All nations have a responsibility to us as people to get rid of them - no more nations should be allowed develop them including Iran if that's what they intend to do but maybe there wouldn't be a need for that if the nations who already had such devasting life ending power at the finger tips got rid of theirs.
Nobody is absolved of blame when it comes to nukes not the nations who have them nor the nations that might seek them we need to do away with them before they destroy us.

In a nuclear conflict all of us lose not just the nations pushing the button, one goes off most if not all of them go off and we all lose.

People paying attention to what is going on right now with regard to Iran would know full well we have three fully armed ( minus the EU ) nuclear nations making moves at the moment, US, Russia and Israel. This isn't a game its happening. This push toward manufactured war with Iran can not be allowed succeed it just cant there is way too much at stake. There is a reason why many leaders and nations none more so than Russia are warning of dire consequences should an attack on Iran take place.

In light of the fact a potential strike upon Iran is probably imminent unless enough people speak out against to stop it from happening insane as it would be to go ahead with it, I would like post this video.

It isnt really relevant to the thread although its content with regard to the nations involved is scarily similar to what is taking place right as we speak and is relevant to the comment Im replying to - we all lose out.

I believe it should be mandatory viewing for all supporters of war, war mongers and politicians - the people who make war happen. This drama was made in 1984 its a BBC production if you have the time to watch it its a powerful production. Maybe after watching this people who are quick to rally behind calls to arms might think twice in the future. We need men and women of peace running our world not the people who run it at the moment - they want war and destruction and one day they are going to start something if they are allowed continue and none of us will walk away from it.

This drama is sobering, powerful, depressing, factual and quite brilliant I hope the MOD's will leave it up as its never been more relevant than it is today. We are but the press of a button away from this I hope it changes some peoples mind about starting futile destructive wars at the whim of some politician/s.

WakeUp wrote: »

Nuclear armed states , all of them , are a threat to our very existance ]

Threads was reportedly responsible already for the disarmament that has taken place since it's production. It was based on the almost inevitability of conflict with the USSR, growing public awareness of dirty nukes as well as escalating arms race and the 'star wars' project led to the collapse of the CCCP.

We have been primed for another war, that's a certainty, as bad as war is, we'd not have the technology today that we all enjoy, including typing on this internet thingie.

"security alerts" go on all the time in countries with a "terrorist" problem, or with overseas interests. Units are put on standby 'ready to go' just in case.

Manic Moran wrote: »

Ballistic missile defence radars tend to look 'up', they're not going to worry about aircraft hugging the deck.

I understand that, I have a basic understanding how the different systems work I probably should have elaborated more in my last post. This is the part I don't understand.

US and Israeli ballistic missile defense is integrated to some degree. The Iranians have ballistic missiles we know this. Any attack against them and its likely them missiles will be launched at targets in Israel and around the middle-east. Now if I was an Israeli military strategist/planner and the decision to attack Iran had been taken - to me the idea that they wouldn't inform the US who have a crucial fundamental role to play in the defense of their skies - I would find that dumb, reckless and absurd. Surely it stands to reason that if an attack is to go ahead they would want that radar and its ability to avert danger at full capacity, everybody on their toes and all systems go?? Not all involved playing catch up from the beginning?? That doesn't make sense to me that's the part I don't understand. I cant see how Israeli military planners would calculate taking such a risk ( not informing the US ) unless of course that's BS and spin which I personally think it is. How much control do the US have over Israeli radar defense do you know? would you be able to put it in a percentage?....