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eircom - NAT Type MEGATHREAD! How to make it NAT 2 or 1?

  • 06-07-2008 11:56am
    #1
    Enda89
    Closed Accounts Posts: 238 ✭✭


    Hi,

    Cutting a long story short... I changed from Perlico to Eircom recently and hooked up the Eircom router last weekend. Since then playing online has become somewhat of a nightmare. Getting into games takes ages and I rarely stay in them for more than a few minutes.

    I found the problem there this morning, in the PS3 connection status menu it lists my NAT Type as Type 3 where it was Type 2 before.

    How do I configure my new router to get it to type 2 NAT? It's a silver netopia one:

    eircom_netopia.jpg

    Appreciate the help.

    P.S. I've tried setting the routers firewall to Low or else Off completly and this made no change
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  • #2
    Plascebo
    Registered Users Posts: 797 ✭✭✭Plascebo


    Enda89, try the link below. I am using the eircom netopia and had my heart broken trying to open ports, get a static ip etc. I followed the instructions on the video and got everything working online and even got NAT1

    It didn't work first time, kept getting username/password errors but I just kept repeating it over and over and eventually got it. It is worth a try!


    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showt...p?t=2055268262


  • #3
    Enda89
    Closed Accounts Posts: 238 ✭✭Enda89


    EDIT: never mind I just pasted the topic no. in

    watched the youtube vid and.... it worked!!!

    cheers, that chap in the video is a legend. I was getting a headache with port forwarding, this chap just does it in 2 mins lol, brill!


  • #4
    hoekie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭hoekie


    Enda89 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Cutting a long story short... I changed from Perlico to Eircom recently and hooked up the Eircom router last weekend. Since then playing online has become somewhat of a nightmare. Getting into games takes ages and I rarely stay in them for more than a few minutes.

    I found the problem there this morning, in the PS3 connection status menu it lists my NAT Type as Type 3 where it was Type 2 before.

    How do I configure my new router to get it to type 2 NAT? It's a silver netopia one:

    eircom_netopia.jpg

    Appreciate the help.

    P.S. I've tried setting the routers firewall to Low or else Off completly and this made no change
    easy to do everyone to change you can even get a nat type 1 with this setting! set up a network connecttion wired or wireless on custom go to the PPPoe and it asks for a user name and password for eircom its broadband 1 and the password is the same broadband 1 and away you go nat type 1!


  • #5
    Stuxnet
    Registered Users Posts: 3,735 ✭✭✭Stuxnet


    hoekie wrote: »
    easy to do everyone to change you can even get a nat type 1 with this setting! set up a network connecttion wired or wireless on custom go to the PPPoe and it asks for a user name and password for eircom its broadband 1 and the password is the same broadband 1 and away you go nat type 1!
    it does go back to nat2/3 tho after a while, dont know why, mines does anyway, usually 3


  • #6
    hoekie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭hoekie


    BOBBY wrote: »
    it does go back to nat2/3 tho after a while, dont know why, mines does anyway, usually 3
    there is another way of getting nat type 2 but you must log into your router
    http://192.168.1.254/ and it shows the main ip address that the router uses which is different from your ps3 ip change that to the ps3 ip and it should get you a nat 2 also unp is enabled! ive done this for my brother on perlico though it may differ for eircom! so check out on you tube on how to change from nat3 to nat2! hope i was some help let me know how you get on!


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  • #7
    jayoomufc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ✭jayoomufc


    anyone no password for perlico to get nat type?


  • #8
    hoekie
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭hoekie


    Enda89 wrote: »
    Hi,

    Cutting a long story short... I changed from Perlico to Eircom recently and hooked up the Eircom router last weekend. Since then playing online has become somewhat of a nightmare. Getting into games takes ages and I rarely stay in them for more than a few minutes.

    I found the problem there this morning, in the PS3 connection status menu it lists my NAT Type as Type 3 where it was Type 2 before.

    How do I configure my new router to get it to type 2 NAT? It's a silver netopia one:

    eircom_netopia.jpg

    Appreciate the help.

    P.S. I've tried setting the routers firewall to Low or else Off completly and this made no change

    VERY EASY WITH EIRCOM ALL YOU DO IS GO TO YOUR INTERNEYT CONNECTION SETTINGS AND AND WHEN YOUR SETTING UP YOUR CONNECTION GOTO PPPOE AND USE THE USERNAME EIRCOM@EIRCOM.NET
    AND THE PASSWORD IS BROADBAND1 AND YOU GET A NAT TYPE 1 EVEN BETTER THAN TYPE 2 HIT ME BACK IF YOUV'E ANY PROBLEMS


  • #9
    Liam2590
    Registered Users Posts: 55 ✭✭Liam2590


    hoekie wrote: »
    VERY EASY WITH EIRCOM ALL YOU DO IS GO TO YOUR INTERNEYT CONNECTION SETTINGS AND AND WHEN YOUR SETTING UP YOUR CONNECTION GOTO PPPOE AND USE THE USERNAME EIRCOM@EIRCOM.NET
    AND THE PASSWORD IS BROADBAND1 AND YOU GET A NAT TYPE 1 EVEN BETTER THAN TYPE 2 HIT ME BACK IF YOUV'E ANY PROBLEMS

    Everytime I enter these settings it just says 'the attempt to obtain an ip address timed out'. Can anybody help me?


  • #10
    knuth
    Registered Users Posts: 469 ✭✭knuth


    Make sure your wifi password is correct IF you are connecting via wireless.


  • #11
    jayoomufc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ✭jayoomufc


    im stuck ineed the PPPoE username n passwordfor perlico has anyone got any idea what it is..


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  • #12
    Mmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Mmcd


    Same happens for me
    Does eircom have any other password/username combos?


  • #13
    Jarrath
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Jarrath


    Why is it when I test my PSP connection setting I get NAT 2 but when I test my PS3 connection I get NAT 3?

    All settings are set to automatic... Anyone else noticed this??


  • #14
    finno
    Registered Users Posts: 752 ✭✭✭finno


    hoekie wrote: »
    VERY EASY WITH EIRCOM ALL YOU DO IS GO TO YOUR INTERNEYT CONNECTION SETTINGS AND AND WHEN YOUR SETTING UP YOUR CONNECTION GOTO PPPOE AND USE THE USERNAME EIRCOM@EIRCOM.NET
    AND THE PASSWORD IS BROADBAND1 AND YOU GET A NAT TYPE 1 EVEN BETTER THAN TYPE 2 HIT ME BACK IF YOUV'E ANY PROBLEMS

    I done this and got nat type 1 thanks mate

    ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️ ⭐️

    Y.N.W.A



  • #15
    sean11
    Closed Accounts Posts: 22 ✭sean11


    Liam2590 wrote: »
    Everytime I enter these settings it just says 'the attempt to obtain an ip address timed out'. Can anybody help me?
    I have the very same problem. I cant play matches on FIFA 09 online. This whole NAT TYPE thing is driving me mad!! I've tried all the eircom passwords etc. the Keep it Carlow Video, ports opened and still no joy. All other game I can play fine. And why is it that I can play matches the odd time??!!


  • #16
    jayoomufc
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7 ✭jayoomufc


    what is the PPPoE for perlico


  • #17
    k1nk33
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭k1nk33


    Pretty simple lads , set up ps3 using custom settings and after entering your security key pick pppoe for ip settings. Username is eircom@eircom.net and password is broadband1. choose manual dns settings and enter this , Primary dns 213.94.190.236 Secondry dns 213.94.190,194. Next change mtu settings to 1492 and go test your connection. Thats it! If it doesn't work first time don't worry just keep trying and sooner or later you'll be giving a nat type 1. Sometimes i get a connection error when i turn on my ps3 but after a couple of seconds it goes back to normal.


  • #18
    k1nk33
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭k1nk33


    As for perlicos username and password you'll have to vist your routers homepage. Open a command promt( google if you don't know how) and type in ipconfig. Find the default gateway ip address and copy it. Open your internet browser and paste the ip into the header bar at the top (where it says http etc). The username and password should be listed in here somewhere.


  • #19
    Mmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Mmcd


    Thanks kink but it still wont work for me whatever combination I use and ive tryed an awful lot. May ring eircom up I suppose as they arent answering my emails!


  • #20
    Batesy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,450 ✭✭✭Batesy


    Can you not stream music/video to the ps3 with NAT1 ??


  • #21
    k1nk33
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5 ✭k1nk33


    EIrcom broadband user's can also use their phone number as their username e.g. 046-xxxxxxxxx or 01-xxxxxxxxx ,and your password is your eircom account number.


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  • #22
    Mmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Mmcd


    Phone and account number doesnt work for me either :(


  • #23
    qc3
    Registered Users Posts: 844 ✭✭✭qc3


    this link should help you if you are an eircom customer
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JugGe7CCuNU
    good luck


  • #24
    Damien360
    Registered Users Posts: 6,233 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Batesy wrote: »
    Can you not stream music/video to the ps3 with NAT1 ??

    No. NAT1 is outside your firewall and outside your network. Hense, the IP address has a public IP address like 159.xx.xx.xx. and not 192.168.xx.xx. The PS3 cannot see anything on your home network.

    NAT2 is inside the your network, firewalled but all the necessary ports are open to the PS3 home network. This is the best of both worlds as you can stream from your PC to your PS3 and online gaming works fine.

    NAT3 is inside your network, firewalled but ports are not open. You can stream from PC to PS3 but online gaming is a pain is the ass.

    All eircom users with netopia routers must do the PPOE method of conneciton to get NAT1. You cannot get NAT2 on netopia routers.


  • #25
    markious
    Registered Users Posts: 84 ✭✭markious


    Damien360 wrote: »

    All eircom users with netopia routers must do the PPOE method of conneciton to get NAT1. You cannot get NAT2 on netopia routers.


    Im pretty sure you can get a NAT2 on the netopia routers, ive seen it done


  • #26
    Mr Freeze
    Registered Users Posts: 6,618 ✭✭✭Mr Freeze


    markious wrote: »
    Im pretty sure you can get a NAT2 on the netopia routers, ive seen it done

    Have you a link to how its done?


  • #27
    Jarrath
    Registered Users Posts: 75 ✭✭Jarrath


    I can get NAT2 with my psp but no success on the PS3.. Buggs the hell outta me...

    Just have to settle for NAT 1 with the PS3...


  • #28
    ignite
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20 ✭ignite


    Hi lads can't use PPPoE using eircom@eircom.net with broadband1 I'm afraid. Any ideas? Anyone else have same trouble? Downloadin on NAT3 is dire...


  • #29
    Mmcd
    Registered Users Posts: 805 ✭✭✭Mmcd


    ignite wrote: »
    Hi lads can't use PPPoE using eircom@eircom.net with broadband1 I'm afraid. Any ideas? Anyone else have same trouble? Downloadin on NAT3 is dire...
    I have had same problem but havent noticed download speeds differing because of it. Havent a solution though sorry!


  • #30
    Dord
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,817 ✭✭✭✭Dord


    If you get a better router then you won't have these problems. Get one that has a DMZ (de-militarized zone) and put your PS3 in that. No messin' around.

    I did that with mine and ditched the Netopia router that Eircon gave me.


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  • #31
    PaddyBomb
    Registered Users Posts: 953 ✭✭✭PaddyBomb


    I can get nat type 2 on netopia, just put d routers firewall on low :-)! So nat type 2, in a way is better than nat type 1?


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