Archived RTE Guides

mike65 · 10-06-2009 7:01pm #1

Anyone know of web resource for old issues of the Guide?

rlogue · 10-06-2009 7:47pm

I have some scans from a couple of sixties editions at www.irish-tv.com

mike65 · 10-06-2009 8:02pm

Saw them

Hoping for something more extensive.

Mike 1972 · 13-06-2009 1:16pm

Was the "RTV guide" actually published by RTE ?

I think I heard somewhere it was actually published by "RTV rentals" but I could be totally wrong ????

coylemj · 14-06-2009 11:10pm

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Was the "RTV guide" actually published by RTE ?

I think I heard somewhere it was actually published by "RTV rentals" but I could be totally wrong ????

People used to mix up the terms 'RTE' and 'RTV' with the result that they got interchanged in everyday use.

The RTE Guide was always published by RTE and still is. RTV was a national chain of stores which rented televisions and which had no commercial connection with RTE.

Fuzzy Clam · 15-06-2009 9:03pm

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Was the "RTV guide" actually published by RTE ?

I think I heard somewhere it was actually published by "RTV rentals" but I could be totally wrong ????[/quote

The RTV Guide became the RTE Guide in 1966.

First edition of "RTV Guide": 1 December 1961
The "RTV Guide" was launched with the promise of "full coverage of all Irish vision and sound broadcasts". The first edition offered listings of Radio Éireann programmes and all BBC television and radio listings. It also carried messages from the Minister for Posts and Telegraphs, Michael Hilliard, and Roibeard Ó Faracháin, the Controller of Programmes at Radio Éireann.
In the first issue of the Guide, the editorial welcomed the timeliness of the publication on the advent of the new television service:
"This magazine fitly appears just as the twin arms of sound and vision prepare together to make our broadcasting service more topical, wide-ranging and enjoyable than ever before".
Not surprisingly, content in the following few weeks' editions of the "RTV Guide" offered readers information on the new television channel. Articles introduced the people who were to be behind the cameras as well as the talent that would appear on screen.
The magazine also carried numerous advertisements for the purchase or rental of television sets.
The "RTV Guide" became the "RTÉ Guide" in 1966.

Antenna · 18-06-2009 3:21pm

Someone came across part of a 45 year old Evening Echo (Cork) from Monday 30March 1964 recently..

Attached are two pics of it consisting of its TV/Radio listings:
(1) TV listings (Telefis Eireann, and with reduced profile, BBC)
(2) Radio listings (Radio Eireann, BBC (West) Home Service, BBC Light, Luxembourg and AFN)

under the radio listings there are ads from TV rental companies. (Fitzgerald's Electrical are still in existance)

Note that all listings only begin at 5PM (obviously the time the newspaper came out then)

Mike 1972 · 19-06-2009 1:42pm

Am I correct in assuming that BBC TV (Even on Band 1) was pretty much impossible to recieve in Cork City and therfore the BBC listings were for the benefit for their "County" readers ?

mike65 · 06-07-2009 2:33pm

Bump found a source which I dug out of my bookmarks

http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/?id=6:ca

Antenna · 20-07-2009 8:24pm

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Am I correct in assuming that BBC TV (Even on Band 1) was pretty much impossible to recieve in Cork City and therfore the BBC listings were for the benefit for their "County" readers ?

in the past 20 years I had seen a very small number of remaining Vertical Band 1 aerials in south-east Co. Cork but what degree of reception or consistency of reception they might have had when the 405 line system was going strong I know nothing of.
405 line TV is not something I ever saw.
The premises of a shop in a high area of Cobh Co. Cork had such an aerial up to a few years ago, until the pole fell down.

A few years ago I read of the life of an inventor and amateur radio operator (callsign Ei7V - only one letter after the digit so a fairly old callsign) who living in an elevated area of Cork city received BBC TV reception with a homebuilt Yagi aerial (and before 'Teilifis Eireann' was available), so he had many callers to his home to get a glimpse of TV!

Freddie59 · 25-07-2009 7:32pm

Antenna wrote: »

in the past 20 years I had seen a very small number of remaining Vertical Band 1 aerials in south-east Co. Cork but what degree of reception or consistency of reception they might have had when the 405 line system was going strong I know nothing of.
405 line TV is not something I ever saw.
The premises of a shop in a high area of Cobh Co. Cork had such an aerial up to a few years ago, until the pole fell down.

A few years ago I read of the life of an inventor and amateur radio operator (callsign Ei7V - only one letter after the digit so a fairly old callsign) who living in an elevated area of Cork city received BBC TV reception with a homebuilt Yagi aerial (and before 'Teilifis Eireann' was available), so he had many callers to his home to get a glimpse of TV!

They were commonplace in Waterford and I remember (vaguely) TV pictures from them up to around 1972 (I was 13). I have a picture of one somewhere. Will dig it out if I can.

There are still some around the City (a testament to the quality of the riggers of the day).

Antenna · 03-03-2010 10:07pm

Attached are pictures of another TV schedule of the distant past I came across recently - A page dated Tuesday 9th March 1982 from the Cork 'Evening Echo'.

Note its an evening paper so would only list schedules from some time in the afternoon, though I asssume in the case of RTE TV - there was nothing earlier in the day anyway?
Curiously there's a preview (third picture) of a RTE2 current affairs show called Public Account that was to look at what must have been the very hi-tech world of satellite TV reception and a 'satellite receiving station at UCC'!
Any chance of a video of that ever appearing online?

Artur.PL · 15-02-2012 11:22pm

Very interesting and very poor TV schedule( no offence) but very similar to Polish TV guide from that time. You were lucky you could watch bbc and other channels. Poles could watch Russian TV only in late 80's and only in Warsaw.
Reading about Irish TV in the past I could find a similarity to Polish TV.
What time RTE 1 and 2 started their broadcasting in the 80's?

Sam Russell · 16-02-2012 1:20am

It is a coincidence that the corner of the page is given over to the Greek budget and their deficit. How times change - or not.

Elmo · 16-02-2012 3:45pm

Artur.PL wrote: »

Very interesting and very poor TV schedule( no offence) but very similar to Polish TV guide from that time. You were lucky you could watch bbc and other channels. Poles could watch Russian TV only in late 80's and only in Warsaw.
Reading about Irish TV in the past I could find a similarity to Polish TV.
What time RTE 1 and 2 started their broadcasting in the 80's?

In the 90s RTÉ were experimenting with early TV, with morning TV at the weekend for Children on RTÉ One (Anything Goes) and Sport on RTÉ Two (Sports Stadium) since the early 1980s. They produced a phone-in show at 12pm which eventually became 12 to 1. They also provided some Educational programming from 11am during the main autumn, winter and spring months. But generally RTÉ One began with Live at 3 Starting at 3. General RTÉ Two started with Bosco at 2:30pm. During the 1980s RTÉ had one of the lowest TV licences in Europe including Eastern Countries.

1984
http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-4587.html
http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-4588.html

1986
http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-40.html
http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-3344.html

1990
http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-739.html
http://tvlistings.thetvroomplus.com/listing-727.html

RTÉ became a statutory organisation in 1966, RÉ and TÉ were both controlled by Dept of Post and Telegraphs until their merger. Though I assume they were closely alligned. The name RTÉ didn't exist in 1962 hence the name of the guide RTV.

Artur.PL · 19-02-2012 10:11pm

During the 1980s RTÉ had one of the lowest TV licences in Europe including Eastern Countries.

I can't get it.

Elmo · 19-02-2012 10:25pm

Artur.PL wrote: »

I can't get it.

What I am saying is that the RTÉ were under political pressure during the end of the 1980s and up to then and even then Ireland was in a very bad recession, so an increase in the Licence fee wasn't something that was going to be given very quickly.

Ray Burke, the Minister for Communications and Justice in the FF/PD government, want to squash RTÉ. He limited the amount they could make on advertising, he insisted that they sell a portion of Cablelink (now part of UPC) to Telecom Éireann (Now Eircom) and at the same time they rescued Ardmore studios. So their schedule from the 1980s might have been poor but this is down to the level of funding available, which as low as Eastern Block Countries and lower, e.g. Poland. (no offence).

Also during this time RTÉ hosted one of the most expensive Eurovisions. Now they didn't have to create the monster that is now the Eurovision Set.

Artur.PL · 19-02-2012 10:28pm

what exactly means that RTE had lowest TV licenses?

Elmo · 19-02-2012 10:57pm

Artur.PL wrote: »

what exactly means that RTE had lowest TV licenses?

The funding that RTÉ received from the state/public. It was one of the lowest in Europe if not the lowest. Sorry, bad grammar and spelling, I have become very lazy with my posts lately.

Artur.PL · 19-02-2012 11:23pm

Let's say 50/50: my English level and yours "bad grammar and spelling".
Just joking, that probably was my fault.

I read somewhere on the internet that Irish TV was so poor that bought polish cartoon Bolek and Lolek because was very cheap and author of that page found it boring. I was always enjoying that cartoon when I was a kid.

It is hard to compare how much money both TV's were receiving from the state and public but comparison can be a bit risky because mass media were very important for the communists, so sometimes they were very generous for TV.

Elmo · 19-02-2012 11:36pm

Artur.PL wrote: »

Let's say 50/50: my English level and yours "bad grammar and spelling".
Just joking, that probably was my fault.

I read somewhere on the internet that Irish TV was so poor that bought polish cartoon Bolek and Lolek because was very cheap and author of that page found it boring. I was always enjoying that cartoon when I was a kid.

If it is the weird psychedelic cartoon with the green man floating around different shapes for about 10 minutes, which was I think some soviet mind-control, then yes.

But looking at the net, I don't remember it. Though the music does sound very familiar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hWu9Kuf6OHM

Heres some bosco for you

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojrQ80hBWSM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2St2rpxzbA

Artur.PL · 19-02-2012 11:50pm

If it is the weird psychedelic cartoon with the green man floating around different shapes for about 10 minutes

That had to be made in USSR

I've no idea what was that.

But I remember Bolek and Lolek as very good cartoon. If you ask Pole over 30 years old about that cartoon you can hear only good opinions(I hope

).

I have to tell you that in 80s mostly we could watch Eastern European cartoons only and the first West cartoon I remember were Smurfs.

Bosco is similar to Polish programs I could watch.

Elmo · 19-02-2012 11:59pm

Artur.PL wrote: »

That had to be made in USSR
I've no idea what was that.

But I remember Bolek and Lolek as very good cartoon. If you ask Pole over 30 years old about that cartoon you can hear only good opinions(I hope ).

I have to tell you that in 80s mostly we could watch Eastern European cartoons only and the first West cartoon I remember were Smurfs.

Bosco is similar to Polish programs I could watch.

Ah the smurfs from the west well not so west, east to us, think that B&L were just before my time.

We had a lot of French cartoons

but made up by Zig and Zag slagging them off and generally slagging off the generally poor Children's programming available.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DAsWE0rrrk

He is basically singing: - Where are you? Where are you? Where are you Shaughnessy? I stand up, I stand up.

Artur.PL · 20-02-2012 12:13am

according to irish-tv.com

[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Broadcasting hours were much more restrictive in the early 70s than at any other time before or since. Children's programmes in particular were hard to come by on RTÉ television, especially during the summer when programmes did not start until 6pm.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]Not a lot of money was spent on indigenous children's programmes with the honorable exception of Wanderly Wagon. The rest seemed to be spent on hideous Czech or Polish cartoons such as Professor Balthazar or worse still, Lolek and Bolek.[/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial,Helvetica][SIZE=-1]What made Lolek and Bolek really awful viewing however, wasn't so much the cartoons themselves, which whilst boring and unfunny were fairly harmless. What put the icing on the cake was the wildly over the top introductions by the various continuity announcers - allegedly it turns out years later that a jar was kept by the announcer's desk. 50p coins were tossed into the jar each time an announcement for Lolek and Bolek was made - the announcer who had made the most over the top announcement in a week would win the jar's contents each week! [/SIZE][/FONT]

and it was still popular in Poland during 80's. My mistake, sorry.

Watching children's channel TV guide I'm still thinking to download this kind of cartoons for my almost 2 years old son( how long can you watch Peppa Pig- his favourite

)
or:
Reksio the composer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rORW-WNQVY

Elmo · 20-02-2012 1:07am

Artur.PL wrote: »

according to irish-tv.com

and it was still popular in Poland during 80's. My mistake, sorry.

Watching children's channel TV guide I'm still thinking to download this kind of cartoons for my almost 2 years old son( how long can you watch Peppa Pig- his favourite )

Yeah, it was the 70s maybe early 80s, I didn't get to see them but I would love to see a clip of the most over the top introduction to the show.

Artur.PL · 20-02-2012 1:55pm

Elmo wrote: »

We had a lot of French cartoons but made up by Zig and Zag slagging them off and generally slagging off the generally poor Children's programming available.

Actually childern's programming in Polish TV was quite strong. There were morning programs and more about 4 p.m. During the summer and winter holidays children's section was expanded.

Elmo · 20-02-2012 2:27pm

Artur.PL wrote: »

Actually childern's programming in Polish TV was quite strong. There were morning programs and more about 4 p.m. During the summer and winter holidays children's section was expanded.

I wouldn't say children's programming wasn't strong, just some of the EBU Cartoons seemed to be broadcast just because RTÉ were part of the EBU.

The Den, Australian programming (at least from the early 1990s), BBC shows and US TV. Made for some great children's TV. Also some Canadian programmes were good.

Personally Blue Peter and Playschool were huge disappointments, I was seriously surprised at the pedestal that such shows where put on by others. And also IMO we are brought up to think everything Irish is crap. <<<< though wait for the responses on that one

Kids programming was reduced during summer months on the idea that children are out playing. (IMO)

Sure Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle were produced in Ireland

Not by an Irish company but still, and voiced by Americans.

Onthe3rdDay · 07-04-2012 2:01am

Pages from The RTV Guide from 1962 and 1965 are now up on

http://brandnewretro.ie/2012/04/04/rte-good-friday-schedule-1962-1965/

stereomatic · 13-03-2013 10:27pm

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Hopefully you will see the front cover of an RTE guide that is 40 years old that is older than me and older than the house that it was found in
If I have succeeded I will post more

mike65 · 13-03-2013 11:23pm

Onthe3rdDay wrote: »

Pages from The RTV Guide from 1962 and 1965 are now up on

http://brandnewretro.ie/2012/04/04/rte-good-friday-schedule-1962-1965/

Those RTE shots are truly of a different age and culture, I remember how things were in the 70s when it was still wall to wall Catholic doctrine but you would at least get to watch the Passion of the Gospel According to Matthew (or whatever it was called

)

stereomatic · 15-03-2013 3:43pm

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