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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,901 ✭✭✭GTE


    freestyla wrote: »
    Something fun for dry track days

    FERRARI FORMULA 1 RACE CAR ORIGINAL 1991 SCUDERIA RACED by JEAN ALESI

    US $975,000.00

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FERRARI-FORMULAR-1-RACE-CAR-ORIGINAL1991-SCUDERIA-FERRAR-F1-RACED-JEAN-ALESI-/160789887039?pt=Race_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_&hash=item256fd2f83f

    Maybe Jordan191 is interested? beautiful early 90s car..

    Whip a 1.9TDI in there and you got quite a daily commute.


    I joke of course!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    freestyla wrote: »

    Maybe Jordan191 is interested? beautiful early 90s car..

    It sure is beautiful, comes with a 7 speed semi auto gearbox and most importantly it has a V12 motor.

    Alain Prost wasn't fond of it at all though, and was fired over comments he made about it...

    Btw, there's a moose behind the wheel in some of the pics.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Music Moderators, Politics Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 22,358 CMod ✭✭✭✭Dravokivich


    The steering wheel looks so simple... :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    The steering wheel looks so simple... :eek:

    Doesn't it just. 2 buttons at the front and the paddle shifters at the back.

    Ferrari 642 (1991) steering wheel:

    1991-Ferrari-F1-Tipo-642-4.jpg

    Ferrari F1 2012 steering wheel:

    foto%206.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Have often looked at the sites selling F1 cars (spending my hypothetical lotto winnings :pac:), more modern cars than that Ferrari are regularly up for much less. Would love to know what having one for track days would actually set you back in running costs. I'd say keeping engines in them would be the stuff of nightmares.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    freestyla wrote: »
    Something fun for dry track days

    FERRARI FORMULA 1 RACE CAR ORIGINAL 1991 SCUDERIA RACED by JEAN ALESI

    US $975,000.00

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FERRARI-FORMULAR-1-RACE-CAR-ORIGINAL1991-SCUDERIA-FERRAR-F1-RACED-JEAN-ALESI-/160789887039?pt=Race_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_&hash=item256fd2f83f

    Maybe Jordan191 is interested? beautiful early 90s car..
    There's a shop less than 5 minutes walk from me with not only F1 cars for sale (one from the 50s, one from the 70s at present) but also cars that competed at Le Mans, a BMW M1, a De Tomaso Pantera, a whole flock of Ferraris, a Jaguar XJ220, and various more modest cars like Fiat 124 Spiders, Bristols, AC Cobras and so forth...:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    Now found it, well just on youtube, but here you get car, truck and mechanics (and Alesi as instructor!) for a occassional track day.. can't find anywhere how much this fun costs.. would remember around 200-300 grands?

    Lotus T125
    Cosworth V8, meh.. only 10.500rpm but 640hp @ 600kg is still thrill



    Monty, wheres that shop mate? want to come there to check out.. closer to my Lotto fantasies :)


  • Posts: 25,611 ✭✭✭✭ Raul Mushy Racer


    The one in the OP doesn't look like it's been well looked after, tyres look completely bald.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Ficus wrote: »
    http://www.racecarsdirect.com is usually well stocked with F1 cars for sale ;)

    I see that they have a 3 seat Arrows up for sale.

    10459.jpg


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    freestyla wrote: »
    Monty, wheres that shop mate? want to come there to check out.. closer to my Lotto fantasies :)
    This is the one. Tucked away in a suburb, you'd never know it was such a goldmine of exotic and classic cars...


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    Ficus wrote: »
    http://www.racecarsdirect.com is usually well stocked with F1 cars for sale ;)

    :eek: Ex Ayrton Senna 1984 Toleman TG-184-2
    http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/42704/ex_ayrton_senna_1984_toleman_tg_184_2.html
    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    I see that they have a 3 seat Arrows up for sale.

    10459.jpg

    For family track days :pac: actually looks awful.. like some sort of mutant of single seater and chinese multihead dragon props


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,113 ✭✭✭SilverScreen


    freestyla wrote: »
    Something fun for dry track days

    FERRARI FORMULA 1 RACE CAR ORIGINAL 1991 SCUDERIA RACED by JEAN ALESI

    US $975,000.00

    http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/FERRARI-FORMULAR-1-RACE-CAR-ORIGINAL1991-SCUDERIA-FERRAR-F1-RACED-JEAN-ALESI-/160789887039?pt=Race_Cars_Not_Street_Legal_&hash=item256fd2f83f

    Maybe Jordan191 is interested? beautiful early 90s car..
    I wonder will it pass the NCT? I wouldn't mind taking it for a test drive either before I buy it.
    freestyla wrote: »
    For family track days :pac: actually looks awful.. like some sort of mutant of single seater and chinese multihead dragon props
    Handy for bringing the kids to school ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    freestyla wrote: »

    For family track days :pac: actually looks awful.. like some sort of mutant of single seater and chinese multihead dragon props

    Lol. Arrows weren't the only team to have a 3 seater car. Ferrari & Renault had them too.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,822 ✭✭✭Mickey H


    Jordan 191 wrote: »
    Lol. Arrows weren't the only team to have a 3 seater car. Ferrari & Renault had them too.

    Thanks for this Jordan. I knew of 2 seater F1s but not 3 seaters. They look really nice, but they'd be useless for Q3 with all that extra weight. :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    Mickey H wrote: »
    Thanks for this Jordan. I knew of 2 seater F1s but not 3 seaters. They look really nice, but they'd be useless for Q3 with all that extra weight. :D

    You're welcome Mr. H :D

    McLaren were the first team to have a 2 seater car, followed by Minardi and Arrows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 277 ✭✭BenMicheal


    In fairness tho, if you had a milion to spend on an F1 car - The Alesi's Ferrari probably wouldnt be top of your list tho?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,142 ✭✭✭shamwari


    If I were to buy an ex-F1 Ferrari then it would be this baby - a year before the one posted by the OP

    http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/28/alain-prosts-fated-ferrari-641-2-f1-car-under-the-hammer-at-mar/

    I saw this particular car race at Silverstone and sound of its Tipo V12 was music....


  • Registered Users Posts: 485 ✭✭guyfo


    shamwari wrote: »
    If I were to buy an ex-F1 Ferrari then it would be this baby - a year before the one posted by the OP

    http://www.autoblog.com/2009/04/28/alain-prosts-fated-ferrari-641-2-f1-car-under-the-hammer-at-mar/

    I saw this particular car race at Silverstone and sound of its Tipo V12 was music....

    Interesting quote in the description of that add.

    "Senna was on pole, Prost right next to him. The lights flashed green, both drivers sped into the first corner where Senna closed the door on Prost and the two collided. Their race was over, and the title was handed to Senna."

    Funny i seem to remember it being the opposite way round.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    guyfo wrote: »
    Interesting quote in the description of that add.

    "Senna was on pole, Prost right next to him. The lights flashed green, both drivers sped into the first corner where Senna closed the door on Prost and the two collided. Their race was over, and the title was handed to Senna."

    Funny i seem to remember it being the opposite way round.
    Is that you, Ayrton?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Is that you, Ayrton?

    Um he's right though, the quote is bollocks.
    Prost was in front coming into the first corner when Senna made a move most agree was intended to take them both out.

    I guess the writer of that article was one of the few people who think Senna actually intended to make that corner and just got his names mixed up.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Um he's right though, the quote is bollocks.
    Um...it was a joke. :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    Um...it was a joke. :)

    Jokes are supposed to be funny.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Jokes are supposed to be funny.
    No call for that tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,354 ✭✭✭smellslikeshoes


    No call for that tbh.

    Your comment about it being a joke was snide.
    Not going to post anything more on it, don't want to bring thread any further off topic.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,455 ✭✭✭✭Monty Burnz


    Your comment about it being a joke was snide.
    Yes, that was why I put a smiley face there - the universal sign of sarkiness. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,047 ✭✭✭freestyla


    Jordan 191 wrote: »

    A bargain hehe

    Respect for the fact Schumi got his first points with it but only 640hp is not so F1 territory


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 464 ✭✭PJTierney


    Anyone remember that guy who built his own BAR/Honda from collecting used parts? Came to something relatively cheap pricewise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,568 ✭✭✭✭Jordan 199


    freestyla wrote: »
    A bargain hehe

    Respect for the fact Schumi got his first points with it but only 640hp is not so F1 territory

    It said in the advert that the power output of the Cosworth HB used in the Benetton during the 1991 season was 730bhp, but the one in the car that's been sold has 640bhp, so that has to be an older spec HB engine, used by Benetton around 1989/1990.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,949 ✭✭✭SouperComputer


    PJTierney wrote: »
    Anyone remember that guy who built his own BAR/Honda from collecting used parts? Came to something relatively cheap pricewise.

    http://www.f1technical.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=9325&hilit=ra107&start=240


    Buying an F1 car, esp a rolling chassis can be pretty cheap. Getting it to the track, safely and running it is not, esp with carbon fire suspension parts. They need to be checked with cracks with an ultrasound (effectively), visual inspection will not suffice. Miss a crack and I think you can guess what happens.


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