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MTV's 25 hottest MC's (commercial MC's!)

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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Hugh Cream


    Lists like this are compiled to generate debate, which this one in particular does.
    Usually they get it wrong but ocassionally they get it right.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,341 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    Hugh Cream wrote: »
    Lists like this are compiled to generate debate, which this one in particular does.
    Usually they get it wrong but ocassionally they get it right.

    Do you think they got it right this time hugh?


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    wale comes in at number 10 .:D

    cant post the videos or watch it as its restricted to america, anyone know where to watch them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    wale comes in at number 10 .:D

    cant post the videos or watch it as its restricted to america, anyone know where to watch them?

    If Wale is 10 then I don't want to watch it tbh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,994 ✭✭✭Shapey Fiend


    MTV's awards have always been compromised, but people still care because they put on a big show. Last thing I watched was the thing in Belfast, was it the EMA's? Every artist that won an award was owned by Viacom.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    big sean number 9

    like a dog i cant watch the videos because they have to giver their reasons for picking them etc, would be interesting/funny to hear them.

    http://www.diversehiphop.com/blog/2012/02/big-sean-9-on-mtvs-2011-hottest-mcs-list/


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Hugh Cream


    Ross #1 .Drake #2 .Minaj #4 .Wayne #5

    Hot list, completely agree .


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    Hugh Cream wrote: »
    Ross #1 .Drake #2 .Minaj #4 .Wayne #5

    Hot list, completely agree .

    Who's number 3 Hugh?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    Who's number 3 Hugh?

    Kayne, the only decent one on the list along with Jayz who is 6th.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Hugh Cream


    In all honesty, as I've said before, these lists are made more to generate debate, the problem being I think people have figured that out and are no longer shocked.
    I'd like to know what case was made for kanye being number 3 and jay 6.
    Wouldnt it be argued that both were apart of the same project, both receiving the same amount of what ever it takes to make the list.

    Says a lot that the go to guy for a verse this year was Chris brown.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    The real question should be what was the case made for the other 18 people (people/entertainers/singers/r&b acts/rappers) and not Jay and Kayne.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭RiseToTheTop


    Commercial Hip-Hop really has gone down the ****ing drain.

    It was good before, but this confirms it. I'm really really glad I don't have MTV.


  • Registered Users Posts: 266 ✭✭HATCHET IRL


    Who really gives a f**k about mtv, stupid list..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 956 ✭✭✭RiseToTheTop


    Who really gives a f**k about mtv, stupid list..

    I know, but commercial hip-hop in all.

    D4L "Laffy Taffy" was released 6 years ago, which was 6 years after 2000 when Hip-Hop was still on top of it's game. **** all has changed in the last 6 years.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,341 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    what the fúck kind of top 5 is that? they picked 4 people who can't actually rap and one half decent rapper.

    I wonder when MTV will realise there's a difference between an MC and a rapper.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    Yep just as I expected so ,at least no one really takes it serious.

    MTV has slowly turned commercial hip hop in to what is today a joke.

    Now we literally have talentless to average rappers Being classed as Mc's.

    Commercial hip hop is dead and has been for a few years now.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,341 ✭✭✭Bobby Baccala


    MTV went from Yo! MTV raps to this ****, makes you think where they went wrong.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Hugh Cream


    hate to be the bearer of bad news, but rap has always had its share of talentless and average rappers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    Hugh Cream wrote: »
    hate to be the bearer of bad news, but rap has always had its share of talentless and average rappers.

    Yes but they faded out quickly and did not stick around for 10 years and grow in fame (Lil Wayne) and by the looks of it Drake and Ross will be worse.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Hugh Cream


    Yes but they faded out quickly and did not stick around for 10 years and grow in fame (Lil Wayne) and by the looks of it Drake and Ross will be worse.
    I suppose ye.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    Hugh Cream wrote: »
    hate to be the bearer of bad news, but rap has always had its share of talentless and average rappers.

    exactly what conor said.

    the likes of drake being classed as an mc dont make me laugh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Hugh Cream


    That's me told, though the term mc does have a few different connotations right, or in 2012 does it strictly stand for one thing and one thing only, something that drake and such obviously are not?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2




    Random Krs one clip and the two top comments should sum it up.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Hugh Cream


    its a corporate thing v underground thing?
    like i said, theres many different connotations, certain groups have taken ownership, it is what it is, which is not underground, or realism, nor is it main stream.

    this whole thing of taking ownership of a word/term thats been around from day one, meaning something else back then, doesnt sit well with me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,246 ✭✭✭conor.hogan.2


    Hugh Cream wrote: »
    its a corporate thing v underground thing?
    like i said, theres many different connotations, certain groups have taken ownership, it is what it is, which is not underground, or realism, nor is it main stream.

    this whole thing of taking ownership of a word/term thats been around from day one, meaning something else back then, doesnt sit well with me.

    No it has nothing to do with how many records you sell.

    Ok Hugh, I think I prefer to go with KRS-One. I think he knows.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,431 ✭✭✭Hugh Cream


    No it has nothing to do with how many records you sell.

    Ok Hugh, I think I prefer to go with KRS-One. I think he knows.
    That's very foolish.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    Hugh Cream wrote: »
    That's me told, though the term mc does have a few different connotations right, or in 2012 does it strictly stand for one thing and one thing only, something that drake and such obviously are not?

    great so lets move on before you whip out the dictionary on us.


  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,717 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    great so lets move on before you whip out the dictionary on us.

    There is no need for remarks like this.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,970 ✭✭✭mufcboy1999


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    great so lets move on before you whip out the dictionary on us.

    There is no need for remarks like this.

    Was it not one sarcastic comment for another ?


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  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,717 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    I think the previous post was a opinion that was just not elaborated on, in that Hugh values his opinion more than KRS.

    Your post is a bit more personal and attacking the poster, not the post.

    If you want to discuss further, take this to PM.


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