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PS3 - Resources, Technical Issues, Troubleshooting, FAQs

  • 21-08-2008 2:42pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 10,571 ✭✭✭✭Dont be at yourself


    This thread is here to provide links and information on frequently-discussed topics. Feel free to contribute. Please keep chatter to a minimum, and only post useful information!

    1. Buying a PS3 Abroad

    European (inc. Irish) PS3s will play:

    All Playstation 3 games (inc. US/Japanese/Asian games)
    PAL Playstation 2 games (IF your system is backwards compatible)
    PAL Playstation 1 games
    Region B (Europe/Africa) and multi-region Blu Ray movies
    Region 2 (PAL), 4 and 0 DVDs

    Japanese PS3s will play:

    All Playstation 3 games
    Japanese Playstation 2 games (IF your system is backwards compatible)
    Japanese Playstation 1 games
    Region A (Japan/US) and multi-region Blu Ray movies
    Region 2 (NTSC) and region 0 DVDs (PAL DVDs may not play back)

    American PS3s will play:

    All Playstation 3 games
    American Playstation 2 games (IF your system is backwards compatible)
    American Playstation 1 games
    Region A (Japan/US) and multi-region Blu Ray movies
    Region 1 (NTSC) and region 0 DVDs (PAL DVDs may not play back)

    With all models, all menus can be put into English. You may sign up for your local Playstation Network store, regardless of location. There are some differences in firmware, and some features may not be available on certain machines. You may be liable for import duty and VAT if your machine is imported from outside the EU. Although overseas Playstations may specify 100-120V, they should work with Irish voltage without a transformer, though this may change. Use at your own risk.


    Threads of Interest:
    Essential PS3 Games

    Topics to be covered:

    NAT/Firewall Problems
    Adding funds to Playstation Network accounts
    Streaming from media centers
    Connecting PS3 to TV/Speakers

    Feel free to contribute!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    This thread is here to provide links and information on frequently-discussed topics. Feel free to contribute. Please keep chatter to a minimum, and only post useful information!

    1. Buying a PS3 Abroad

    European (inc. Irish) PS3s will play:

    All Playstation 3 games (inc. US/Japanese/Asian games)
    PAL Playstation 2 games (IF your system is backwards compatible)
    PAL Playstation 1 games
    Region B (Europe/Africa) and multi-region Blu Ray movies
    Region 2 (PAL), 4 and 0 DVDs

    Japanese PS3s will play:

    All Playstation 3 games
    Japanese Playstation 2 games (IF your system is backwards compatible)
    Japanese Playstation 1 games
    Region A (Japan/US) and multi-region Blu Ray movies
    Region 2 (NTSC) and region 0 DVDs (PAL DVDs may not play back)

    American PS3s will play:

    All Playstation 3 games
    American Playstation 2 games (IF your system is backwards compatible)
    American Playstation 1 games
    Region A (Japan/US) and multi-region Blu Ray movies
    Region 1 (NTSC) and region 0 DVDs (PAL DVDs may not play back)

    With all models, all menus can be put into English. You may sign up for your local Playstation Network store, regardless of location. There are some differences in firmware, and some features may not be available on certain machines. You may be liable for import duty and VAT if your machine is imported from outside the EU. Although overseas Playstations may specify 100-120V, they should work with Irish voltage without a transformer, though this may change. Use at your own risk.


    Topics to be covered:

    NAT/Firewall Problems
    Adding funds to Playstation Network accounts
    Streaming from media centers
    Connecting PS3 to TV/Speakers

    Feel free to contribute!

    In order to add funds to your PlayStation Network account, you will need a credit card, such as a Visa or Mastercard, (Possibly a 3V Prepaid card, if you use it like a Visa).

    Go to Account Management under "PlayStaion Network", Wait for it to load, then follow the link to either "Wallet Management" Or "Redeem PlayStation Network card or Promotion code".

    Method 1: Wallet Management)
    To add funds select "Add Funds". It will ask how you wish to add the funds, But will only give you one option: "Credit Card". Now enter your credit card details. If you entered your credit card details when you signed up to the PlayStation Network, you will not have to enter your details again.

    You can only enter Amounts in Denominations of €5, €10, €20 ETC.

    Method 2: PSN Code)
    Someone else fill this in.





    Edit: Denominataions? WTF???


  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭ravydavygravy


    NAT Issues

    If you go into the PS3 Network Settings and perform a connection test, it will tell you what NAT level you are currently on. The three levels are NAT1, NAT2 & NAT3:
    • NAT1 - Direct connection to the internet - no NAT required
    • NAT2 - Connected via router, but all necessary ports NAT-ed (aka port forwarded)
    • NAT3 - connected via router, some ports not NAT-ed yet.
    When you first connect your PS3 to the internet through a normal DSL router, you will usually be on NAT3 - you probably want to get this up to NAT2 or NAT1 to ensure you can sucessfully do all the online gaming stuff you want to do (chat, host games, join games...)

    There are two main ways of doing this - you only need to do one or the other.


    Method 1 - Port-Forwarding to get NAT2

    In this method, you are trying to open certain ports in your router to allow other users to connect to them - this is necessary for the complete operation of PSN functionality. The idea is that you set up rules on your router to forward traffic on certain ports to your PS3, which lives on your internal network. When all the ports are done, you will be at NAT2.

    To get specific instructions for your router, go to portforward.com - pick your router (look on the router for a sticker with a model number if you don't know it), and then select "Playstation Network" as the application to configure. Follow these instructions carefully.

    You may also need to open these ports on your routers firewall - refer to to user manual of your router for further info, or ask on the Comms forum. Also, some games use special ports - you can get instructions for them on portforward.com as well.


    Method 2 - Using PPPoE to get NAT1


    PPPoE is the protocol your router uses to connect to your ISP, but your PS3 is able to do it as well - it's explained clearly on this video:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JugGe7CCuNU

    As Mick mentioned, you'll need your internet login details - if you don't have them, ring your ISP and ask fior them (or google it). Also, bear in mind this will only work for ISPs that use PPPoE (regular DSL providers) - I'm not sure if it will work for cable modems, radio internet, satellite internet etc... (people like Irish Broadband, UPC) - maybe someone else can confirm/deny this.

    The net effect of following the video is that your PS3 gets a public IP address on the internet (like your router has) and is outside your firewall (so all the necessary ports are open by default) - do the connection test, and you'll be at NAT1


    So which one do I do??

    It doesn't matter, both will work, and conversly, people have had trouble getting either method to work. In general, method 2 is simpler and involves no router knowledge, so a lot of people go for it. On the other hand, method 1 exposes less of your PS3 to the internet (just the ports you open), so its argueably a better option from a security point of view. Also, if you use media servers to stream to the PS3, method 2 will also probably stop this working - it can be made work, but thats another story....

    If you are still in doubt, or you have a funny network setup, try asking on the Net & Comms forum for advice. Alternativly, search this forum for old threads on NAT issues - there are loads of them, so its possible someone had the exact same problem as you and found a solution already...


  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭ravydavygravy


    PS3 Models - What are the differences??

    Summarized from wikipedia:

    All models include: Blu-ray/DVD/CD drive, HDMI 1.3a, Bluetooth 2.0, Gigabit Ethernet (10BASE-T, 100BASE-TX, 1000BASE-T), PlayStation One backward compatibility through software emulation. All models used to come with a single Six-Axis controller, but in the newer 80GB and 160GB models, this has been replaced with a Dual-Shock Six Axis controller. All models come with a simple AV cable & scart adaptor to connect to a TV set, an ethernet cable, power cable and a USB cable to charge/power the controller.

    Model|Region|USB Ports|Wi-Fi|Card Reader|Play SACD?|Play PS2?|Released|Available|Colours
    20GB|NTSC|4|No|No|Yes|Yes (via HW)|Nov 2006|No|Black
    40GB|PAL,NTSC|2|Yes|No|No|No|Oct 2007|While stocks last|Black, White(Asia Only),Silver(Asia Only),Grey
    60GB|NTSC|4|Yes|Yes|Yes|Yes (via HW)|Nov 2006|No|Black
    60GB|PAL|4|Yes|Yes|Yes|Yes (via SW)|Mar 2007|No,second-hand only|Black
    80GB|NTSC|4|Yes|Yes|Yes|Yes (via SW)|Aug 2007|Yes|Black
    80GB|PAL,NTSC|2|Yes|No|No|No|Aug 2008|Yes|Black
    160GB|PAL,NTSC|2|Yes|No|No|No|Oct 2008|Yes|Black

    SACD = Super Audio CD - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Audio_CD (no, I never heard of them either...)


    Tell me more about the backwards compatability!!

    Originally, the PS3 was built containing the two main hardware chips from the PS2 - the Emotion engine processor and the Graphics Synthesizer. These models (20GB and 60GB NTSC models) could therefore support most PS2 games using this extra hardware. Later, they removed the Emotion Engine chip, replacing it with software emulation to run PS2 games (80GB NTSC and 60GB PAL versions). Eventually they removed the graphics chip as well, and now no currently available PS3s have PS2 backwards compatability. Since the emulated version relied on the graphics chip, and it is no longer built into the PS3, backwards compatability for PS2 games seems to be a thing of the past.

    If this is a big deal for you, you'll have to trawl the second-hand market for a 60GB version...


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    Release Dates:

    20/60 GB Japan: November 11th 2006
    20/60 GB US/Canada: November 17th 2006
    60 GB Europe, Middle East, Africa and Austrailasia: March 23rd 2007
    80 GB Usa/Japan: August ?? 2007
    80 GB Europe, Middle East, Africa and Austrailasia: August 22nd 2008
    160 GB Worldwide: October ?? 2008

    60 GB Release Prices (In Order Of Release):
    Japan: ¥59,980 (€313.30)
    USA: $599 (€405.75)
    Europe: €599
    Britain: £425 (€532.61)
    Ireland: €629

    We paid 13£ Less than britain at the launch. darn excahnge rates


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,470 ✭✭✭✭guil


    just to clarify that pppoe doesnt work on cable davy, i'm with upc


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,470 ✭✭✭✭guil


    edit


  • Registered Users Posts: 545 ✭✭✭ravydavygravy


    HDMI Cables for my PS3

    Ok, so something that comes up a lot is the issue of cabling - do I buy a €200 HDMI cable or a €1 one?

    Companies will always try to get you to part with as much money as possible. With analogue cabling, stuff like shielding and good cable construction were kinda important, because these things could have a real effect on the signal being passed from one end to another.

    With digital signals (like HDMI), the information being passed through the cable is much simpler - just 1s and 0s. In general, digital cables either work perfectly (clear picture) or not (no picture/blocky picture) - you don't get interferance noise, or fuzziness.

    With this in mind, a producer that makes cables and sells them for €100+ with claims that they are ultra-low interferance, gold-plated, low-oxygen wonder cables are duping you and me. They may well have all these features, but the performance (in general) will be no better than a cheap €5 cable from tescos. The features don't matter.

    So why make expensive cables - they may be useful in some circumstances, such as over long distances, where a quality cable may keep the signal stong for longer. Or if you like brandnames. A lot.

    To sum up: In general, if you are connecting a PS3 to TV with a HDMI cable under 5M, the cheapest one you can find will work perfectly.

    Its not just us - other people have come to the same conclusions:

    http://www.popularmechanics.com/tech...e/4235717.html
    http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...sage.id=828972
    http://arstechnica.com/journals/thum...2007/2/19/7116
    http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-11276_7-6845988-3.html


  • Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 19,088 Mod ✭✭✭✭byte
    byte


    The likes of Monster would think different. Or at least, hope you see their way of thinking!


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,470 ✭✭✭✭guil


    trust me there is no difference between a monster 300 and one i got for 20 euro i payed 100 for the monster like a gob sh!te


  • Registered Users Posts: 699 ✭✭✭ball ox


    byte wrote: »
    The likes of Monster would think different. Or at least, hope you see their way of thinking!

    this is interesting


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    Adding funds, Part 2!

    To add funds to your account with a PS3 Voucher Card, You will need;
    1) A PS3 Voucher Card (Only available in USA/Canada)
    2) A USA/Canadaian Playstation Network Account

    Step one: Purchase your Card.
    Step two: Sign in with your USA/Canadian Psn account.
    Step three: Go to the store, and in the top right select "Redeem Code", and enter in your code.
    Step four: Done! Enjoy your money.

    Note: For those of you who receive a beta code (ie: LBP or Home), or a special add-on for a game (ie: Nariko or Kratos for LBP), The above steps, with exclusion of step one, and step two being "sign in with your account"

    That is all.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 109 ✭✭pool fan


    how do i set up a us account so i can download a game from the us playstation store?


  • Registered Users Posts: 281 ✭✭the hunter


    i cant change my nat type. ive tried carlow micks way of doing it i tried through eircom they were no fecking help i tried the other method going into computer setup still on type 3 . does anyone know how to do this ????


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13 L37 fan


    pool fan wrote: »
    how do i set up a us account so i can download a game from the us playstation store?

    well what i done was 1st type in your name, DOB etc then for address ... type in the address of a hotel in USA it worked 4 me !


  • Registered Users Posts: 973 ✭✭✭Super Sidious


    Originally Posted by doylah View Post
    honestly are you serious pab? take the finger out will ya and read these instructions and follow

    -Turn on PS3
    -Click into your account
    -Go to settings
    -Then network settings
    -Then Internet Connection settings
    ENTER THESE SETTINGS
    pg1 - custom
    pg2 - wired
    pg3 - auto-detect
    pg4 - PPPoE

    enter for NAME - Eircom@eircom.net
    enter for PASS - Broadband1

    Then everything automatic afterwards besides proxy server(do not use) and upnp(disabled)

    then run the test.................. enjoy.

    .


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,785 ✭✭✭James Forde


    Anyone know where i can get a PS3 repaired for cheap, laser died me thinks?


  • Registered Users Posts: 371 ✭✭eioneill


    If your PS3 is still in warranty call Sony and they will replace it for free. If its not still chance your arm and call them. There has been occassions where they have replaced consoles outside of warranty. If no luck with Sony try this crowd http://consolerepairsdublin.com/services@consolerepairs.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    Just a tip for signing up to the US, GB or Japanese store. Setting your address to
    City : A
    Province/State: A
    Etc.
    WILL work, except for postcodes. For America put down any 5 numbers, for GB put down "NW1 123". That postcode worked fine for me.

    But for added authenticity for your American account,
    1600 Pennsylvania Ave.
    Washington D.C.
    Zip: 20006


  • Registered Users Posts: 371 ✭✭eioneill


    Yeah any made up address seems to work to register for the American store. I used 101 West Boulevard, Beverly Hills, California, USA, Zip 90210. I didn't even use a valid email address either and it works just fine!!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,295 ✭✭✭Horse84


    Ok guys noob post coming up lol......:D

    thinking of getting a ps3 i saw on ebay there. Question is the ad states it's a 'new ps3 console UK PAL'. Will this be ok to use here??

    Also i don't have a HD tv, yet, i've heard some people have had some issues using their ps3's on older tellys. will i have an issue with a 10 or 12 yr old sony trinitron wide u think, which works grand with my xbox?

    Thanks for listening:)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 371 ✭✭eioneill


    That PS3 would be fine. Pal versions are standard in Ireland. Should have no problem with it working on your old tv..once there is a working scart connection or composite connections (red, white, yellow) on the back of your tv.


  • Registered Users Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Hurricane-Dean


    Hey guys I have a broadband question for online gaming on the PS3, my friend doesn't have broadband but he's thinking of getting it, he doesn't have a landline so he's quite limited does anyone know are the mobile broadbands compatible with the PS3 or does the PS3 not send out a signal to receive it? Also what would be the ideal speed for playing online? Cheers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 258 ✭✭acidburn51737


    Umm i dont think mobile broadbands are wireless so you cant connect wirelessly through that. Dun know if its possible to connect the ps3 using mobile broadband though


  • Registered Users Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Hurricane-Dean


    Hi guys, yeboards.ie - Reply to Topicsterday i had a problem with the connection between my router and my PS3, i have never had a problem with it before but all of a sudden its just not connecting.

    Details: i keep getting a warning "exchanging key information has timed out"

    Router: Netgear wireless g router
    Model: WGR614v9
    Security: WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES]
    ISP: Clearwire

    As this is the first time it happened to me i'm not sure if there is any other information i need but if there is do not hesitate to tell me.

    If there is anyone out there with a solution i would greatly appreciate it.

    Thanks


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5 michi12


    Hey i wanna get a ps3 but i hear that all the backward compatibility ones are out of production. is there anywhere i can get one or do the 80 gigs have backwards compatibility?

    Cheers


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,457 ✭✭✭giggsy664


    Some 80GB's have BC. All 60 GB's have BC. Afaik, all of the BC SKU's have been discontinued

    You want to get a PAL console, because it will only play PAL ps2 games, and the same if you have NTSC games etc.

    All Console are PS1 compatible

    You should find some BC SKU's on adverts.ie


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,532 ✭✭✭WarZoneBrother


    Well I had a promblem where I could not see any online contacts but got it working thanks to giggsy and other members, anyways heres a step by step guide on what to do:

    1. Make a new account on the PS3 not a PSN account.

    2. Transfer ALL saves onto that account (I forgot to do this :mad:)

    3. Load up the old account and delete it.

    4. Load up new account and create your PSN.

    5. Synch trophies it will take a while to sych so be patient.


  • Registered Users Posts: 954 ✭✭✭Hurricane-Dean


    Hey guys I got my PS3 sorted, I put the router in a DMZ, I found a guide on how to do it in some american forum, if anyone else is having any problems this should work for you:

    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/610541


  • Registered Users Posts: 19,473 ✭✭✭✭Super-Rush


    I have to send back my PS3(FIFA 09 disc won't eject) If they decide to replace the console i am going to lose all my game data. Can i back my data up on my PSP memory card? I thought i'd ask before i broke something.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,613 ✭✭✭milltown


    If it's just your game saves and such then a small USB key or something will suffice. If it's an option for you, you can back up the whole lot to a USB hard drive then reload it all when/if you get your new console.


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