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Countries where women cant work

  • 20-01-2011 7:26pm
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    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭


    What do the ladies lounge think of societies where women cant work? by no means is our society perfect, we have our own problems, but can anyone give me any explanation to why some societies behave like this and does this way of living benefit their society in anyway?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭WesternNight


    paky wrote: »
    What do the ladies lounge think of societies where women cant work? by no means is our society perfect, we have our own problems, but can anyone give me any explanation to why some societies behave like this and does this way of living benefit their society in anyway?

    Any article? Examples? Specifics? :confused:


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    What countries do not allow women to work? I've had a think through the likes of Afghanistan, Iran, Saudi,etc but women can work in those countries.

    That said I'm a bit brain dead today.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,135 ✭✭✭✭Sleepy


    They're a symptom of out-dated religious beliefs being given too much say in the running of countries.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,485 ✭✭✭✭Ickle Magoo


    paky wrote: »
    What do the ladies lounge think of societies where women cant work? by no means is our society perfect, we have our own problems, but can anyone give me any explanation to why some societies behave like this and does this way of living benefit their society in anyway?

    Can you start by giving us your own thoughts on the matter?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    i was thinking that men have forced this on the women but if this is the case, then how have countries which have lived like this before ever evolve into the countries they are today??


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,556 ✭✭✭Nolanger


    2. 1° In particular, the State recognises that by her life within the home, woman gives to the State a support without which the common good cannot be achieved.
    2° The State shall, therefore, endeavour to ensure that mothers shall not be obliged by economic necessity to engage in labour to the neglect of their duties in the home.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    paky wrote: »
    i was thinking that men have forced this on the women but if this is the case, then how have countries which have lived like this before ever evolve into the countries they are today??

    What countries are you talking about where women are expressly forbidden to work, and for what reason are they forbidden to?


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,329 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    Its riddiculous. Same as banning women from being educated is just silly in some countries. Men and women should be treated like equals, and not just a mans world or a womans world alone!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,701 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    There are no such countries?


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    There are no such countries?

    I can't think of one. Saudi allow women to work, however only about 5% of Saudi Muslim women work, but it is allowed. They have plenty of female foreign workers there. Sharia law allows women to work.

    The only "society" I can think of who expressly forbade women to work were the Taliban,but they have not held power in Afghanistan since 2001 and only came to power there I *think* in 1996.

    I'll be interested in finding out more if there are countries where women are still forbidden to work tho!


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  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Some towns in Somalia which are controlled by Militants ban women from working, and Kuwait bans women from working at night, and in jobs which "contravene with public morals and in all-men service places at any time."


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,477 ✭✭✭✭Raze_them_all


    So no real countries then?? TBh I doubt you'd find an actual country that bans women from working.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭ztoical


    No country out right bans women from working...they couldn't as they'd be banning around 50% of their population and no country could function for very long doing that. There are countries that limit they type of work women are allowed do either directly or by putting other restrictions in place that limit their empolyment options [limiting travel options for example]


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 16,186 ✭✭✭✭Maple


    I do not see the point of this thread. OP are you able to back up your initial post with any findings that detail countries where women are forbidden to work? Were you referring to something specific?


  • Registered Users Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    Methinks the op wanted a bit of "zomg wimminz are being opressed!" controversy, and has now realised that their claims have no backups and are completely wrong,and they'll never return :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,433 ✭✭✭jhegarty


    Sleepy wrote: »
    They're a symptom of out-dated religious beliefs being given too much say in the running of countries.

    Yes , that thing that doesn't happen is all religions fault. :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 807 ✭✭✭Jenneke87


    Women in Afghanistan are allowed to work(but only in places where only women come and they are still required to wear a burka) but the retributions make it virtually impossible. No one will hire a woman(because she's seen as inferiour) and the family will refuse to mind the child(if there is one) because she has disgraced the family by working, even though there is no other option sometimes(when her husband died and she's not remarried yet or other reasons) The taliban still holds power in some regions of Afghanistan and any women there would be crazy to try it as they will be severly punished.


  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Jenneke87 wrote: »
    Women in Afghanistan are allowed to work(but only in places where only women come and they are still required to wear a burka) but the retributions make it virtually impossible. No one will hire a woman(because she's seen as inferiour) and the family will refuse to mind the child(if there is one) because she has disgraced the family by working, even though there is no other option sometimes(when her husband died and she's not remarried yet or other reasons) The taliban still holds power in some regions of Afghanistan and any women there would be crazy to try it as they will be severly punished.

    Women in Afghanistan are no longer required to wear a burqa by the government, in Taliban controlled regions they are.

    There are now women in Afghanistans Army and Police force, women have been involved in politics since 2001 and served in some senior positions, and the 2004 constitution of Afghanistan is considered very progressive for the region and Islamic Culture.

    There are some interesting articles here
    The vast majority of Afghanistan's population professes to be followers of Islam. Over 1400 years ago, Islam demanded that men and women be equal before God, and gave them various rights such the right to inheritance, the right to vote, the right to work, and even choose their own partners in marriage. For centuries now in Afghanistan, women have been denied these rights either by official government decree or by their own husbands, fathers, and brothers. During the rule of the Taliban (1996 - 2001), women were treated worse than in any other time or by any other society. They were forbidden to work, leave the house without a male escort, not allowed to seek medical help from a male doctor, and forced to cover themselves from head to toe, even covering their eyes. Women who were doctors and teachers before, suddenly were forced to be beggars and even prostitutes in order to feed their families.

    Since the fall of the Taliban in late 2001, many would agree that the political and cultural position of Afghan women has improved substantially. The recently adopted Afghan constitution states that "the citizens of Afghanistan - whether man or woman- have equal rights and duties before the law". So far, women have been allowed to return back to work, the government no longer forces them to wear the all covering burqa, and they even have been appointed to prominent positions in the government.
    Despite all these changes many challenges still remain. The repression of women is still prevalent in rural areas where many families still restrict their own mothers, daughters, wives and sisters from participation in public life. They are still forced into marriages and denied a basic education. Numerous school for girls have been burned down and little girls have even been poisoned to death for daring to go to school.


  • Registered Users Posts: 168 ✭✭aceygray


    Not a legal ban, but women in Pakistan face strong social and family pressures not to work outside the home, even if it is financially neccessary. There's a good article about it here: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/27/world/asia/27karachi.html?pagewanted=all
    he confiscated her uniform, slapped her across the face and threatened to break her legs if he saw her outside the home....

    At work, some women spend more time deflecting abuse from customers than serving them. On the way home, they are heckled in buses and condemned by neighbors. It is so common for brothers to confiscate their uniforms that McDonald’s provides women with three sets.


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