My idea of the deep web is looking at the free stuff on Adverts. That or straying into one of the Region Forums on Boards. Any more off the beaten path and I'd be afraid I'd never get back. The only onion browsing I like is picking through them on the top of me steak.
Tor is not the only manifestation of the deep web, just the one which has received the most mainstream publicity. There are many other protocols for running underground web applications - i2p is a good example, which apart from allowing anonymous browsing, contains its own built in hidden chat system. Freenet is another.
Serious criminals have probably also created their own protocols which are kept entirely secret and the public knows nothing about. It wouldn't surprise me at all if there was a program which operated like Tor or i2p but with its own separate proprietary protocol, and was only known or available to members of specific organisations. Makes sense web you think about it - publicity is what will kill Tor due to making it an increased target for surveillance, anything which is kept quiet has a better chance of remaining secure.
I had a peek once to see what was "down there" it was pretty much like the internet was 10 years ago. Very basic HTML pages with lots of links to lots of odd and dodgy content.
I didnt go snooping too much though.
I don't know anything about it tbh but was just thinking having read through this thread.......
If there is so much CP and images on it would agencies not use it to find missing children etc?
Can it not be hacked or traced?
I use TOR quite often. I've no interest in visiting the deep Web though. TOR is not slow to use. It takes a little time to initialise - less than a minute usually. Once it is running there isn't a noticeable difference in the connection speed though.
I get exposed to enough disturbing crap while browsing the regular Internet. A good example was a highly distressing image on Wikipedia I saw while looking up a chemical that causes birth defects.
As opposed to the regular web which is...?
TBH, as another poster says, it sounds cool, "Deep web", but really its more the "slightly-harder-to-get-on-to-than-regular" web.
Its been made famous by a few newspaper articles and of House of Cards, but really, the Deep Web is just a corner of the internet. There are many other corners which are also obscured and are less moderated than say boards. Theres a whole big world out there that isn't indexed by google.
I saw screen shots of forums from it on another forum a few weeks ago. Nearly made me get sick. Reading this thread has creeped me out all over again. It's infuriating that it's untraceable as it seems like a haven for rapists, violent criminals, paedophiles and child abusers.
It's almost impossible - even the NSA are having massive trouble trying to crack it, as evidenced by one of Snowden's leaked slideshows called "Tor Stinks". It details several possible ways of trying to identify Tor users but concludes by telling analysts that if their target is indeed using Tor, they're better off looking for slip ups than trying to crack the network (for example, Tor isn't going to help you if you do something silly like using a personal email address when registering on a hidden forum, etc).
For example, the owner of Silk Road was caught because he used a personal gmail account in his early days when asking a question about setting up his server on a dev forum. The Irish guy Eric Eoin Marques, who ran Freedom Hosting, was caught through a combination of tracking his financial accounts and an exploit in a particular version of the Tor browser which allowed users to be tricked into leaving the deep web.
In other words, Tor is secure apart from personal screwups and the occasional exploit. The majority of users will not be caught - that is, unless intel agencies' capabilities increase substantially.
One thing to bear in mind is that Tor hides where connections are going by encrypting the routing information in packets which travel through it. From Snowden's documents we know that the NSA et al are attempting to essentially destroy the concept of asymmetric encryption using super computers and attempting mathematical breakthroughs - if they ever succeed, everything on the internet which relies on encryption is f*cked, including Tor.
You dont share video and images on this "one"?
Bloody hell, just had a look at the hidden wiki on it. Clicked a link which was like a normal wiki page but just a list of child pórn sites. Even the names of them are sickening
In some ways, the so called deep web is one of the last bastions of a free internet. Unsurprisingly the powers that want to control the internet surround the "deep web" in child porn and sex traffcking and drugs to discredit it. From you're reading of that "hidden wiki", everyone who goes to the deep web is a pervert by association.
I bet you feel warm and safe now that you're back on goold ol' boards.
There was a time when I would have dismissed this as an unproven conspiracy theory, but Snowden's latest releases actually prove, in writing, that intel services do plant various things in order to try and control public perceptions of various events and parts of the internet. The latest documents show a very chilling attempt at mass mind control - not in the sense of directly f*cking with people's minds in a sci-fi manner, but in the sense of trying to control the public discourse and misrepresent popular opinion using censorship, massive hoards of fake social media accounts to add voices to one side of various debates, etc etc etc.
It now wouldn't surprise me at all if Tor and others, while undoubtedly attracting a fair amount of pedos and criminals on their own, had their ugly parts enhanced artificially in order to scare people away from them.