• Hurricane Fly (70.83%)
  • Zarkandar (5.83%)
  • Binocular (10.83%)
  • Grandouet (0%)
  • Oscars Well (1.67%)
  • Rock on Ruby (6.67%)
  • Other (please specify) (4.17%)
Shane732 Moderator
#271

Odds on - Paddy Power standing it up at 10/11

tomdillon2012 Registered User
#272

Binocular to win dont think Hurricane Fly is suited to Chelt track, Binocular a course specialist. I think the Fly is underpriced @ odds on. Surely Sizing europe represents better value if you want something @ that price. Binocular e/w for me

#273


Binocular to win dont think Hurricane Fly is suited to Chelt track, Binocular a course specialist. I think the Fly is underpriced @ odds on. Surely Sizing europe represents better value if you want something @ that price. Binocular e/w for me


Make up your mind

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jimjamcos Registered User
#274

tomdillon2012 said:
Binocular to win dont think Hurricane Fly is suited to Chelt track, Binocular a course specialist. I think the Fly is underpriced @ odds on. Surely Sizing europe represents better value if you want something @ that price. Binocular e/w for me


If you watch last years Champion Hurdle you'll see Hurricane Fly pulled very hard from the start yet still had enough left in the tank to battle a tough Peddlers up the hill. In fact, Mullins has since stated he was disappointed with last years winning run!

Now to this year... Mullins says The Fly's most recent win was he best ever! Why? Crucially, Mullins noted that they were fearful for the horse's chances that day (hence the alarming drift) as he didn't have the usual "boldness" beforehand. He would, with hindsight given the exhibition that followed, later suggest that this may simply be because the horse has matured and settles better.


Binocular's run against Celestial Halo, while impressive, doesn't hold up to The Fly's equally devastating showing against much better quality in Oscars Well, Thousand Stars and Unaccompanied.


Conclusion: While Binocular is definitely worth an each-way bet, The Fly is proven at Cheltenham, will settle better this year and have more left in the tank to power up the hill. Only one winner I'm afraid!

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tomdillon2012 Registered User
#275

Binocular to swot the fly up the hill. . Would you rather back a quevega big bucks double @ 6/4 or hurricane fly @ 10/11

Shane732 Moderator
#276

tomdillon2012 said:
Binocular to swot the fly up the hill. . Would you rather back a quevega big bucks double @ 6/4 or hurricane fly @ 10/11


With Quevega you're hoping that Mullins turns her out right first time and that the mares race is pretty weak. Personally I fancy Quevega - even if she's not 100% I think she'll beat the rest of the field.

I think a Mullins treble may be on the cards. What about the fourfold for Ruby - including Kauto in the mix!

You can get somewhere around the 5/2 mark on the treble.

jimjamcos Registered User
#277

tomdillon2012 said:
Binocular to swot the fly up the hill. . Would you rather back a quevega big bucks double @ 6/4 or hurricane fly @ 10/11


If I was going big I'd do the single on Hurricane Fly definitely. Ruby laughs when asked has he any worries about The Fly whereas he warns that it would be a major feat for Quevega and Big Bucks, while massive favourites in weaker looking fields, to take their respective races for the fourth year. Oscar Whiskey, although not proven over World Hurdle trip, scares me as I ALWAYS FEAR THE UNKNOWN.

I've all 3 done in numurous ways anyway so I'll be a loser if any are beat!

mr.jingle Closed Account
#278

Shane732 said:
With Quevega you're hoping that Mullins turns her out right first time and that the mares race is pretty weak. Personally I fancy Quevega - even if she's not 100% I think she'll beat the rest of the field.

I think a Mullins treble may be on the cards. What about the fourfold for Ruby - including Kauto in the mix!

You can get somewhere around the 5/2 mark on the treble.


Who are the three in your Mullins treble?

With Paddy power giving better prices on all Ruby Walsh's mounts in March including the Festival then i can see you getting even's there on the day. Personally can see him going off around 10/11 on the day. Personally i can only see Zarkandar as his only real challenger this year as he's unexposed compared to some of the others

jimjamcos Registered User
#279

mr.jingle said:
Who are the three in your Mullins treble?

With Paddy power giving better prices on all Ruby Walsh's mounts in March including the Festival then i can see you getting even's there on the day. Personally can see him going off around 10/11 on the day. Personally i can only see Zarkandar as his only real challenger this year as he's unexposed compared to some of the others


Ruby says Zarkander wont have the pace for CH and that Binocular is the main danger. Can't be having Zarkander given Ruby refuses to give him a chance!

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UrbanSea Closed Account
#280

I remember reading before though that Ruby never really rated Zarkandar

Colonel Sanders Closed Account
#281

Good support for Rock On Ruby today in the champion market

While I think HF will win of the so called "good things" he surely faces the stiffest opposition

jimjamcos Registered User
#282

UrbanSea said:
I remember reading before though that Ruby never really rated Zarkandar


And it seems he still doesn't when it's up against proven CH class in The Fly and Binocular! Paul Nicholls has been tipping it up as a brilliant each way bet at the Festival but it screams out to me why a superb race judge such as Ruby hasn't done likewise given he's rode the horse and the horse has done absolutely everything asked of him. It's obvious from the Betfair Hurdle at least that Zarkander is the type of horse who keeps finding and finding but I don't think Ruby feels it has the class to be a CH contender.

jimjamcos Registered User
#283

Colonel Sanders said:
Good support for Rock On Ruby today in the champion market

While I think HF will win of the so called "good things" he surely faces the stiffest opposition


Who of the "good things" do you think will get beat? I have, like many I assume, done all (SS, HF, Q, BB) but one will invariably let me down...just keep changing my mind each day as to which one it'll be!

Colonel Sanders Closed Account
#284

I'm not in a hurry to oppose any of the "shorties" but will be availing of the PP offer innate Arkle. Probably via an each way bet on Cue Card

mdwexford Registered User
#285

Foolish to write off an unbeaten horse.

Nobody knows how much Zarkandar has left in the locker, not even Ruby.

I do think he'll need to travel much sweeter than he did at Newbury but after the cough and being out for so long who knows how straight he was that day.

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